--- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, brendan downs <wittrs@...> wrote: > > Further more nominalist and realist in ontology don't dispute things such as > relations or predicates e.g. from point (a) to point (b) is say 100 miles. > now this 100 miles has a two part predicate, point(a) and point (b). as in > process such as computational I will use the example of photosynthesis. Sun, > oxygen, carbon dioxide, water.. whatever has a four part predicate and this > applys for computational process. to label something "computational > nominalism" is to misunderstand the debate. both nominalists and realists in > ontology don't dispute processes e.g. 1+1=2 does/doesnt exist doesnt make > sense. Brendan, I pretty much agree with what you say about nominalism, in fact that's a very valuable point, that nominalism is not an epistemological position at all. I would not call it a "metaphysical" position as such, at least I would prefer to call it a "methodological" position, that's how us naturalizing folks like to talk. The issue of "computational nominalism" is a new debate, but it does not change what you say - it is still not an epistemological position, and it is even more so a methdological project. Trees will still be trees, and 1+1 will still =2, but perhaps we can come to understand what the difference is between the computer on my desk and the paint on Searle's wall - this would at least help to enlighten Searle. And for people like Fodor (and me) who like to talk about computational theories of mind (CTM), a better understanding of the "computational" part, may finally help to shine some light on the "mind" part, or at least on the composition CTM. IOW, "computational nominalism" is much more about computation than it is about nominalism, it draws on nominalism in order to help explain computation. Josh WEB VIEW: http://tinyurl.com/ku7ga4 TODAY: http://alturl.com/whcf 3 DAYS: http://alturl.com/d9vz 1 WEEK: http://alturl.com/yeza GOOGLE: http://groups.google.com/group/Wittrs YAHOO: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wittrs/ FREELIST: //www.freelists.org/archive/wittrs/09-2009