well said sekhar --- On Wed, 30/9/09, SWM <SWMirsky@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: SWM <SWMirsky@xxxxxxx> Subject: [Wittrs] Re: Wittgenstein, Language, Thought and Mind To: wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009, 2:01 AM This is very well, and very concisely, put! I find myself in strong agreement, a rarity on lists like this. -- SWM --- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Nasha Waights Hickman <wittrs@...> wrote: > > > > I too have much to say to Sean's reply , but must go and cook dinner!!! > > But I don't think your comments are fair to his arguments, I don't think they > betray tacit endorsement of dualism, but only some real questions: how is > this kind of language working? Sure, when we say our feelings are private we > don't mean what the dualist thinks, but what is the right way to think about > the concept of privacy here? etc > > For now I just want to say quickly: > > While I agree that Wittgenstein expects us to reject the dualistic picture > tout court , he in no way wishes us to revise and improve our ways of > speaking, at least not outside philosophy. Metaphors have their place, poetry > has its place, and talk of 'innermost feelings' and 'my own private world' > has it's place too. > > Trouble comes in milking these expressions for (so-called) metaphysical facts > about the nature of the mind, that is all. > > Wittgenstein, as I see it at least, is attempting to clarify our use of > words, not defend it , reject it, or improve it. We will always be vulnerable > to bewitchment by our own language -- the philosopher's job is to remove the > spell, not remove the form of words from currency. > > WEB VIEW: http://tinyurl.com/ku7ga4 > TODAY: http://alturl.com/whcf > 3 DAYS: http://alturl.com/d9vz > 1 WEEK: http://alturl.com/yeza > GOOGLE: http://groups.google.com/group/Wittrs > YAHOO: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wittrs/ > FREELIST: //www.freelists.org/archive/wittrs/09-2009 > WEB VIEW: http://tinyurl.com/ku7ga4 TODAY: http://alturl.com/whcf 3 DAYS: http://alturl.com/d9vz 1 WEEK: http://alturl.com/yeza GOOGLE: http://groups.google.com/group/Wittrs YAHOO: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wittrs/ FREELIST: //www.freelists.org/archive/wittrs/09-2009 Now, send attachments up to 25MB with Yahoo! India Mail. Learn how. http://in.overview.mail.yahoo.com/photos