[Wittrs] Re: When is "brain talk" really dualism?
- From: kirby urner <kirby.urner@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 08:24:16 -0700
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:11 AM, swmaerske<SWMirsky@xxxxxxx> wrote:
<< snip >>
> You're the one who is claiming that Wittgenstein's work supports your
> interpretation that "subjective experience" is "the microcosm", "the all" or
> "the visual room"! So it is for you to provide evidence that your
> interpretation is correct, either by argument or by some direct quotes which
> show him saying or arguing for such a position.
>
> SWM
>
"Subjective experience" is way too ugly-redundant to be a pointer to
anything, let alone "microcosm", which is a beautiful word, or try
"private sky" (R.B. Fuller).
"Microcosm" embeds in, maps to, is contained in "Macrocosm" and the
relation between these two is a subject in architecture, in the design
of the Globe Theater (see 'The Art of Memory' by Francis A. Yates).
"Objective experience" is just as much "microcosm" as "subjective
experience". Try: experience = workflow = scenario. The closely
associated word for "experience" is "the world" in TLP, i.e. that
which is the case somewhat minus the "self" (aka viewpoint) which is
more just a part of the logic (not the subject of science, so much as
philosophy).
The PI undermines or subverts the TLP i.e. is active counter to the
author's previous work. "Disavowal" would be too much a turning one's
back and walking away, bespeaking a lack of introspection or self
reflection (he needs to grapple, not dodge). That's why he wanted
both to be studied. There's a kind of stereography going on.
Kirby
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