Just thought I'd throw some cat nip in here. http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/canrobotsmakeethicaldecisions I wonder whether anyone ever stopped to consider the question of whether "robots making ethical choices" isn't really saying: (a) Robots can do something ethics-like (b) something robot-like can do something ethics-like (c) humans can make robots immitate behaviors frequently called "ethics" (d) ethics is as ethics does (e) people cannot deploy ethics as a rule like many uses of the word "bachelor." Hence, one is forbidden to assert "only humans can do ethics." (cf: marriage is between ....) (f) ethics is a calculus of some sort like gravity. (Cf: Newton discovered gravity. No, he discovered its formula) (e) technology is cool If a dog does ethics, is it dog-ethics or just ethics? If it is dog-ethics, why does it seem wrong to say that a robot does robot-ethics? Is it because the robot is not functioning as a genre here? But why? Probably because it is functioning as an immitation. And if one could obtain a perfect immitation, one would want to say in language "it is doing ethics." (Of course, you could program it to do dog-ethics as well). If I said to you that a robot could do things not reserved for the grammar of "robot," what will i have done to all of my other expressions? Would I then say of an ordinary robot, "you're not a 'robot' at all' -- sort of in the way one says to a whimpy person, "you aren't a man at all." What is interesting in all of this is the nonsense of it all. The only true headline is this: "technological capacity getting really cool." But the fools won't see this. They'll get caught in the language game. They'll think philosophic issues exist. Or that they have been impacted. They'll think either ethics or humanity or equality or dogs are at stake. There isn't a thing here to discuss other than to register the state of advancement of "robotics" and to think about the implications of new toys. Or how it will affect politics and society. But there isn't one damn philosophical problem. Not one at all. All there is, is the confusion people have when throwing around the term "robot" and "ethics." (Yours sent from opensubscriber to see if it works) -- This message was sent on behalf of whoooo26505@xxxxxxxxx at openSubscriber.com http://www.opensubscriber.com/messages/wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx/topic.html WEB VIEW: http://tinyurl.com/ku7ga4 TODAY: http://alturl.com/whcf 3 DAYS: http://alturl.com/d9vz 1 WEEK: http://alturl.com/yeza GOOGLE: http://groups.google.com/group/Wittrs YAHOO: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wittrs/ FREELIST: //www.freelists.org/archive/wittrs/09-2009