[Wittrs] Re: Analyzing Wittgenstein's 'Mental Processing' Quotes
- From: kirby urner <kirby.urner@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:06:07 -0700
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:13 AM, brendan downs
<downs_brendan@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
<< trim >>
> My apolgises, I qutoted wikipedia with out citing it, in future I will not
> use wiki as a reliable source.
>
I might change wikipedia if I get the urge. Mostly I capitalize on
its botching certain entries, in order to drive more traffic to my
more credible web sites (on those specific topics).
> > > Neurologically speaking the brain/mind is composed of electrical and
> chemical process but to talk about brain-mind is to take the concepts out of
> context, "In the Critique of Pure Reason, Kant argues that when concepts
> grounded in experience are applied outside of the range of possible
> experience, the result is contradictions and confusion"
>>
>> I've introduced Kant as a good example of a linguistic turn
>> application. He suggests we can't help but see in "three dimensions"
>> (this was before the "4D = 3D + Time" meme of early 1900s), yet
>> there's a competing namespace that would say "3" is not the best
>> number, that whole "height width and depth" demo we take for granted,
>> and from which derives our notion of "linear independence" based on
>> "norms" or "90 degree angles", being a silly carnival trick, a
>> sideshow bob kinda deal -- so many suckers!
>
> This if true if you accept E=mc2 is not a contradiction, how do you quantify
> mass in a vaccum, therotically.
>
The 4D meme split into two camps, the Coxeterians and the
Einsteinians. The latter are mixing what we'd call secondary
characteristics into the mix, i.e. time and its attributes (accidental
features) whereas the former are more strictly Platonist in having no
arrow of time, nothing irreversible, no entropy, no leakage. Sir
Roger (Penrose) mentions these different freedoms in his three worlds
(three namespaces) shop talk.
Then a third split occurs, off the Coxeter branch, that reintroduces
the time dimension as a fifth, not a fourth, because the tetrahedron
claims 1-4 for itself i.e. you have 6-edges, 4-windows, 4-vertices, so
the Kantian "3" (height, width and breadth) turns out to be one of two
complementary zig-zags, the 90 degrees no longer so important, and the
complementation inevitable (so it's really more a 6ness than a 3ness).
None of this voids the traditional XYZ namespace. We might notch 1-4
down to 0-3 (so still 4D because inclusive) ending up with the
zig-zags tetrahedron as our fourth dimension (3). Not sure about that
yet, gotta hammer some more. Might have been Tom Ace or David Chako
who tossed that out on another listserv some years back i.e. won't
claim as original with me.
Kirby
>
> Brendan
>
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