Mike and all, Juvenile is actually the technically correct term to use. Juvenile refers to a specific stage in development. My understanding is that Juvenile usually refers to a first year or fledgling bird. Immature refers to any stage of development younger than Adult. Happy Birding! --Chris W, Richland County http://swallowtailedkite.blogspot.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/swallowtailphoto "The beauty and genius of a work of art may be reconceived, though its first material expression be destroyed; a vanished harmony may yet again inspire the composer; but when the last individual of a race of living things breathes no more, another heaven and another earth must pass before such a one can be again." (From William Beebe's "The Bird: Its Form and Function," 1906) > From: mikeduchek@xxxxxxxxxxx > To: wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [wisb] Immature vs. juvenile (no WI sightings) > Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 22:06:53 -0500 > > Just a quick question: what is the difference between a juvenile bird vs. an > immature, for eBird reporting purposes and otherwise? I have seen young > great horned owls here in our woods in Waukesha and was wondering if these > should be considered juveniles or immatures? So when does an immature bird > become a juvenile (or vice versa, if I have it reversed)? > > > > I also spent this weekend on Lake Kabetogama at Voyageurs National Park in > far NE Minnesota. I wasn't willing/able to drag my companions into too much > hiking/birding, but did manage to hike a couple of the trails. On the Echo > Bay Trail just down the road from where we stayed I was treated to several > gray jays, including at least 2 immature/juvenile birds. Neat to see, as the > immatures/juveniles are entirely black, besides being quite vocal. I also > find gray jays (and Steller's jays) to be a lot more approachable than, say > blue jays. Always neat to see these big birds so up close. > > > > Was also neat to see a stuffed great gray owl and boreal owl at the visitors > center, both of which I have yet to see in real life. > > > > Thanks a lot, > > > > -Mike Duchek, Waukesha, Waukesha Co. > > #################### > You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding > Network (Wisbirdn). > To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: > //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. > To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: > //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. > Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn. > > #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn.