Hi all, I've been offline the past couple of days so haven't seen this discussion until now. I was the one that called out "I think I've got an Upland Sandpiper" on Saturday morning because when I first saw the bird it was standing alert with the long neck and small head very noticeable. I have never seen an Upland so this was a gut reaction based primarily on jizz and posture rather than a chance to study fieldmarks. As mentioned elsewhere the bird didn't hang around long enough for a detailed look and the wind and lighting conditions were pretty challenging. I have seen Ruff on numerous occasions (back in the UK) and this bird didn't have the same jizz as Ruff which I generally think of as quite a 'chunky' shorebird - it doesn't have the 'dainty' feel that some Sandpipers have and which this bird had. Of course this is not particularly scientific and I certainly didn't get a good enough view to submit the record. Also the wind might play all sort of tricks with posture and feathers! Ruff is certainly a possibilty. Hopefully someone might get a chance to see the bird through a stable scope if the wind dies down. Migratory Ruff in the UK often hang around a site for a few days so I'm going to try to pop down to Horicon again this week because it might still be around. Stuart Malcolm Appleton ________________________________ From: Dar Tiede <crepuscular@xxxxxxxxxx> To: Wisbirdn <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: hopmoon@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, 16 October 2011, 9:52 Subject: [wisb] Re: Horicon 10/15 - Upland Sandpiper Concerning the putative upland sandpiper that was reported from Horicon yesterday on the Northeast Wisconsin Bird Club field trip. This was at the pump house mudflats along 49. There has been some side discussion at other sites questioning if the possibility of ruff was considered. Ruff was mentioned in a side discussion among 2-3 birders but not considered by the whole group. I have requested feedback from members present yesterday as to the details on field marks observed and whether the upland ID was definitive with consideration of ruff. The distance, light and wind conditions (shaky scopes) were less than ideal. The general posture (upright) with relative head and bill size to body size could make either a possibility. There are only 5 October records for upland with 10-13-63 being the latest date. There is only one October record of Ruff (Tessen, Dodge Co., 10-13/14-1979). So in either case this would be a record fall departure date and require documentation.. It will probably remain an intriguing sighting that may become a case could of - would of - should of - done better study. Anyone visiting Horicon in the next few days please keep an eye out for this bird and perhaps the ID can be verified one way or the other. Dar Tiede Appleton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jym Mooney & Carol Lee Hopkins" <hopmoon@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "Wisbirdn" <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 11:31 AM Subject: [wisb] Horicon 10/15 > Went up to Horicon to see if he high winds swept anything interesting in. > It was more a question of what got swept out, however. I didn't see a > single heron, egret, cormorant, pied-billed grebe, or pelican, when just a > week ago I had them in the dozens. I did find a pair of Trumpeter Swans in > the last pond on the auto loop. > > Shorebird activity on 49 is still impressive. By the pumphouse I ran into a > group of birders with Dar Tiede, and we identified Black-Bellied Plovers, a > couple of American Golden Plovers, White-Rumped Sandpipers, a Sanderling, > and an Upland Sandpiper. I didn't see them, but someone called out that > Dowitchers were flying overhead at one point. Further west on 49, I spotted > good numbers of Greater Yellowlegs and a couple of Snipe. The brisk wind > shook optics and chilled hands, but it was a beautiful morning to be out > nonetheless. > > Jym Mooney, Milwaukee > > > #################### > You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). > To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn > To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn > Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn > > #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). 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