[WinPrnDev] Re: Creating a Printer Driver
- From: Sam Elamin <hussam_88@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <winprndev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:31:40 +0000
Clinton
It seems that RedMon isnt supported on windows 7, whats odd is that the PDF is
created fine but if i try to redirect to my custom exe it just produces an
error. This means I will have to create my own redirect port which is a bit of
a shame seeing as the functionality i want is in RedMon
RegardsSam
From: hussam_88@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: winprndev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [WinPrnDev] Re: Creating a Printer Driver
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:28:12 +0000
Clinton
Apologies i was guided to use .NET but I realise its better to use C, what if i
just write a simple WIN32 console program? that way if i provide the exe with
the install there wont be any need to for framework to be installed on client
side.
I am just in the process of redirecting to my exe but it seems to be locked
because i am getting erors when i try to configure the port, im sure ill sort
it out though.
Question is what does RedMon pass to ghostScript? the PostScript file? and I
still have no idea if the document name can be produced?
RegardsSam
> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:21:13 +0100
> Subject: [WinPrnDev] Re: Creating a Printer Driver
> From: clinton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: winprndev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Hi Sam,
> Sorry my mistake. So what's the reason for .NET if you prefer C/C++?
> Ignore me just we have a thing going on here in the office where everyone
> who knows me knows my common phrase "I do C/C++ why do I need a FrameWork
> to do things", not that I have any issue with the FrameWork, just never
> needed it.. Makes perfect sense for VB.NET and C##, BUT I love pointers.
>
> Anyway, going off topic again. You should be able to decipher this.
> Briefly the API calls to programatically add drivers, portmonitors etc is
> identical.
> AND yes, instead of ghostscript, call your app and away you go. Are you
> sure you want your users to first have a FrameWork installed before
> calling a simple program?
>
> Clinton
>
> >
> > Clinton
> > Thanks alot i will take a look at it, although I much prefer C to VB. You
> > know how it is with us programmers if you love C you hate VB and vice
> > versa :)
> > But I was just wondering, RedMon actually allows you to point to which exe
> > you want to start with, so instead of reirecting to ghostscript i should
> > redirect to my .net app right? RegardsSam
> >
> >> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 15:35:23 +0100
> >> Subject: [WinPrnDev] Re: Creating a Printer Driver
> >> From: clinton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To: winprndev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> Hi Sam,
> >> I think you are getting there.
> >> The INF file is nothing more than a text configuration file used by the
> >> "Windows Add printer" User Interface. Primarily you don't need to rely
> >> on
> >> this and can install a printer driver, portmonitor automatically, BUT if
> >> you wish users to add a printer manually then the .inf is the way to go.
> >> It instructs the interface where files should be placed and what name to
> >> give the driver file with all its dependancies.
> >>
> >> Lets see you prefer VB, I have found a VB source site that does
> >> everything
> >> you require. Welcome to the world of opensource..
> >>
> >> http://www.pdfforge.org/download ( download the source and away you go )
> >> The will install a printer driver, portmonitor, ghostscript. You might
> >> want to do things differently BUT I thought the language syntax would be
> >> familiar so would make more sense than me sending you C snippets.
> >>
> >> Have Fun!
> >> Clinton
> >> >
> >> > Sorry everyone, just goes to show how new I am to all of this. I
> >> assumed
> >> > the INF file would be produced after compilation when its just a
> >> simple
> >> > text file containing information about the driver and tells windows to
> >> > copy the drivers to the system directory
> >> > I relise this because compiling the local port sample on WDK, it
> >> produced
> >> > DDLs
> >> > but RedMon has its own setup, I am assuming that given the RedMon DDLs
> >> i
> >> > can easily write an INF file to install the ports, so I need to
> >> actually
> >> > manipulate the code to stdout to a .net application instead of
> >> ghostscript
> >> > which does the same thing as ghostscript (as in create a temp file
> >> then
> >> > PDF) and then upload to server.
> >> > If thats correct then im finally beginning to understand what i need
> >> to
> >> > do, but there still the matter of the document name, how will I get
> >> it?
> >> > Will the output RedMon produces contain the name of the document
> >> > somewhere? Maybe GhostScript has a field for document name?
> >> > RegardsSam
> >> >
> >> > From: hussam_88@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > To: winprndev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: [WinPrnDev] Re: Creating a Printer Driver
> >> > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:21:35 +0000
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Clinton
> >> > Thank you for your email, I am just looking at the RedMon source code,
> >> I
> >> > still have no idea how they produce the INF from the code but i am
> >> > assuming that to build an inf of a printer port I will have to maybe
> >> work
> >> > with the WDK.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I guess im just lost as to where to start with creating the Port, once
> >> i
> >> > compile the C Code for the port monitor would that create an inf file?
> >> >
> >> > From what i understood in your email your advising that I write a
> >> bridge
> >> > program that creates the temp file of the input(Stdin) that it
> >> receives
> >> > from RedMon and then call Ghostscript to create the PDF from the temp
> >> > file, and although Ghost script does this its better if I am in
> >> control of
> >> > this process incase of bugs or crashes.
> >> > so the first thing i need to do is create the Redmon that would
> >> redirect
> >> > to my program instead of Ghostscript and although i know i can just do
> >> > that via the configure in the port menu I would muh rather get stuck
> >> in!
> >> > and start learning by playing around with it.
> >> > how do i create the inf file for my new redirection port though?
> >> > RegardsSam
> >> >> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:13:19 +0100
> >> >> Subject: [WinPrnDev] Re: Creating a Printer Driver
> >> >> From: clinton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> To: winprndev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Sam,
> >> >> If I remember correctly. REDMON can output to stdout ( Program
> >> handles
> >> >> output ). So you would need to create a little app ( C would do ),
> >> that
> >> >> accepts stdin, creates a TEMPFile and then calls Ghostscript to
> >> create
> >> >> the
> >> >> PDF ( another Temp ). This then can be "remotely sent". Technically
> >> >> GhostScript can accept stdin stdout, BUT I do advise you controlling
> >> the
> >> >> file creation ( if something goes wrong, you know where ) and passing
> >> >> these as parameters to the PDF driver type.
> >> >>
> >> >> Hope it helps!
> >> >> Clinton
> >> >> PS: I read in a previous email someone saying that Microsoft were
> >> trying
> >> >> to remove sockets/ports, this I don't think will ever happen as the
> >> >> spooler CORE is designed around this also CLUSTERED PRINTING only
> >> >> support
> >> >> TCP/IP printing ( which is socket based through ports )
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That sounds like much neater. OK so the next step is to actuallly
> >> >> learn
> >> >> > how Redmon works and modify it to launch a .Net application. I will
> >> >> also
> >> >> > need to learn how Ghostscript works and how to convert the
> >> Postscript
> >> >> file
> >> >> > produced to PDF, but what about naming. Does the port monitor know
> >> the
> >> >> > name of the document? or will it be overwritten?
> >> >> > RegardsSam
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 11:33:36 +0200
> >> >> >> Subject: [WinPrnDev] Re: Creating a Printer Driver
> >> >> >> From: jjflash@xxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> To: winprndev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Sam Elamin
> >> <hussam_88@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > So what if I print to a redmon port (RE1) which will redirect to
> >> >> >> ghostscript
> >> >> >> > which produces the PDF, then print the PDF to RedMon Port 2
> >> (RE2)
> >> >> and
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> > second port will print to a .NET application which was created
> >> >> soley
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> > upload a job.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Or have RedMon Port 1 launch your .Net app that first spawns
> >> >> >> GhostScript to do the conversion and next upload the result
> >> >> somewhere?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ;)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Rune
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