[windows2000] Re: Wit's end with login scripts

  • From: "Greg Reese" <GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:33:01 -0500

but what are the rights to that folder and are they the owner of it?  By 
setting the home drive for the user when you setup the user the are the owner 
of it and are the only one with rights.  Even if a power user tried to map a 
drive to \\server\users\jdoe he would fail unless it was his drive.

Even as administrator I have to jump through some hoops and trash the 
permissions if I need to remove a file from someone's home drive.

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Rick Fogarty
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 11:23 AM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Wit's end with login scripts


Personally, I don't use them.  We manually mapped each users My Docs folder
to a hidden network share.  Never really had a need for the home folder
otherwise...

-----Original Message-----
From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Parsons, Laura
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 11:13 AM
To: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Wit's end with login scripts


OOOOOh. Could be, Rick. Actually in regards to the home driectories I bet
that's just what it is. Now, as soon as I figure out group policy, we should
be good to go. 
PS: What is the benefit of having a home directory? I know that I should be
troubleshooting the scripts as that's the real problem, but I can't help
thinking that if I got rid of the home directories half my problems would go
away.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Fogarty [mailto:rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:32 AM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Wit's end with login scripts


Laura,

Is it possible that you're having a timing issue?  We found similar problems
when things weren't logging in correctly.  We put a sniffer on the network
and found some problems.  There is a GPO that will up the time that it waits
for responses - thus allowing the user more time to map to the server.

Could this be it?

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Reese
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:22 PM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Wit's end with login scripts


I have a similar problem with printers.  People get used to the names.  You
can also do a Case statement.  I run mandatory profiles and network printers
get created at login based on group which is based on location like this:

SELECT
   ; Regency Oaks
        CASE ingroup ("Regency") = 1
                ADDPRINTERCONNECTION ("\\server\HP LJ 4 - RO MC")  ;Model
Center
                ADDPRINTERCONNECTION ("\\server\HP LJ 4 - RO HH")  ;Home
Health
                GOTO RODEFAULT

  ; Lakeport
        CASE ingroup ("LakePort") = 1
                ADDPRINTERCONNECTION ("\\server\HP LJ 4 - LP MC")  ;Model
Center
                ADDPRINTERCONNECTION ("\\server\HP LJ 4 - LP HH")  ;Home
Health
                GOTO LPDEFAULT


then in the RODEFAULT and LPDEFAULT sections is another case statement that
has the groups to determine se that.

You are already playing the shell game to accommodate specific users, I
would beat them down till they see the light of day, then make it all happen
in one script.

If you are already having trouble now, it is time to nuke the whole thing
and attack it fresh.  Use the pickup in speed as the selling point.  

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Parsons, Laura
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:02 PM
To: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Wit's end with login scripts


It sounds like a far off, pleasant dream to have but one script, but alas,
my kix scripts list individuals as many members of the same groups have
different mappings. Why? Because have any of you ever tried to convince a
user that their drive letters are arbitrary? That it doesn't matter whether
it's the O drive or the R drive? They don't seem to get it. I have one guy
who insists on having three drives mapped to the same place becasue he
thinks they're different based on the drive letter. 
But thanks for the syntax, Greg. Chances are I will put it to use.

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Reese [mailto:GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:51 PM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Wit's end with login scripts


why have all the different scripts?

Make groups.  Accounting, Sales Etc

then use ingroup in kix or ifmember to set the individual dept settings that
are different within the one script.  Use some goto's in there to skip them
around the parts that don't apply to keep it fast.

Then you only have one script to deal with.

here's a snip from my kix login script.  I have one login script for nine
locations and about 20 departments:

;map common drives

  ;skip the front desk group 
        IF  ingroup ("Front Desks") = 1
              GOTO Printers
        ENDIF

  ; everyone else
        USE P: "\\server\Public"
        USE T: "\\server\ADPTC"

;Corporate
        IF ingroup ("Corporate") = 1
                USE F: "\\server\Finance"
                USE J: "\\server\HarbourHealth"
                USE K: "\\server\SylvanHealth"
                USE L: "\\server\LakeHarris"
        ENDIF
        

  

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Parsons, Laura
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:26 PM
To: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [windows2000] Wit's end with login scripts


Am I the only person in the world who deals with flaky login scripts?
Recently did an Active directory migration, but even before that I had
intermittent problems with these batch files. Sometimes they'll run without
a hitch for months. Then one day an H drive won't map or a home drive won't
show up. Or just one drive mapped in a kix script will map and the others
won't. Ugh. I'm using a combination of batch files that call kix scripts.
There are many different scripts that this is happening to as each
department has their own. Even when I run the script with a pause statement
to follow it's progress, no errors pop up, the drives just don't map. Is it
me??
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