[windows2000] Re: Windows software raid0
- From: "Sorin Srbu" <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:44:14 +0200
Angus Macdonald <> wrote on Thursday, September 21, 2006 12:03 PM:
Yikes! Good thing we don't have any real storagecenters here... 8-)
> The ones we've bought recently (300GB FC) have a list price of over £4000uk
> EACH! We don't pay anything like that but it's still scary and a very good
> incentive to carry on paying the maintenance charges.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 20 September 2006 15:49
> To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [windows2000] Re: Windows software raid0
>
>
> Angus Macdonald <> wrote on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:21 PM:
>
> I see you've dealt a bit with those rare creatures (in my world at least).
>
> The most expensive I've bought so far was a 170GB SCSI3-160 drive a few
> years
> ago. It does still run, but was to small for what we needed it to. Some time
> ago we bought a used HP server with a 6x 32GB raid array. I had exchange
> those
> for 6x 73GB SCSI3-360 SCA drives. Those six drives still cost less than that
> single 170GB drive. In this case this was RAID as it was meant to be,
> relatively inexpensive. 8-)
>
>
>> I agree it's a small issue but I'm feeling pedantic today ;-)
>>
>> "Redundant Array of Inexpensive (or Independent - have you ever bought a FC
>> drive?) Drives" does kind of infer a degree of redundancy to me. Maybe we
>> should use Fragile Array of Inexpensive Drives (FAID) instead. For fibre
>> channel it should be Fragile Array of Expensive Drives (FAED).
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: 20 September 2006 14:35
>> To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [windows2000] Re: Windows software raid0
>>
>>
>> Beckett, William (Bill) <> wrote on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 2:59 PM:
>>
>> That depends on what meaning you put in a "stripe set". A striped set may
>> be both fault tolerant (raid5 isn't it?) or not (raid0), both are still
>> striped sets and thus raids. I think we're splitting hairs, into very
>> small fragments, raid hair fragments. ;-)
>>
>>
>>> All perspective. My lean would be towards Angus' interpretation. My take
>>> was redundancy was ~ equivalent to fault tolerant. Obviously a stripe set
>>> is not so it is odd that this would be termed "RAID".
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sorin Srbu
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:52 AM
>>> To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [windows2000] Re: Windows software raid0
>>>
>>> Angus Macdonald <> wrote on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 10:45 AM:
>>>
>>> It's probably becuase you use a *striped* set of disks in an array. Raid0
>>> is IMO a "real" raid which focuses on performance rather than security
>>> (which is probably more common). Blame IETF or IEEC or some such. ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've often wondered why RAID-0 is classed as RAID at all. Doesn't the
>>>> R stand for "redundant"? Surely there is no redundancy in RAID-0.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> Sent: 20 September 2006 07:43
>>>> To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [windows2000] Re: Windows software raid0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Weston, Eric A CTR USAF NASIC/SCNA <> wrote on Tuesday, September 19,
>>>> 2006 6:18 PM:
>>>>
>>>> Clear and to the point. Thx.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> A spanned volume is created from free disk space that is linked
>>>>> together from multiple disks. You can extend a spanned volume onto a
>>>>> maximum of 32 disks. A spanned volume cannot be mirrored and is not
>>>>> fault-tolerant.
>>>>>
>>>>> A striped volume is a volume whose data is interleaved across two or
>>>>> more physical disks. The data on this type of volume is allocated
>>>>> alternately and evenly to each of the physical disks. A striped
>>>>> volume cannot be mirrored or extended and is not fault-tolerant.
>>>>> Striping is also known as RAID-0.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You can add a drive to a spanned volume, but not a RAID-0
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sorin Srbu
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:23 AM
>>>>> To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [windows2000] Re: Windows software raid0
>>>>>
>>>>> David <> wrote on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:19 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't get you. First you say it's possible, and then not? Which is
>>>>> it??
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorin Srbu escribió:
>>>>>>> Really? For sure? I just plug it in and add the new drive to the
>>>>>>> array using the disk managment mmc?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> *Subject:* [windows2000] Re: Windows software raid0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Raid0 mean " No RAID" then you can add disks without issues
>>>>>>> Please be sure that you don´t have RAID 0+1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *"Sullivan, Glenn"
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>>>>>>> [windows2000] Re: Windows software raid0
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've never seen Software RAID expand without a rebuild, IME.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good Disaster recovery Test I guess...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Glenn Sullivan, MCSE+I MCDBA
>>>>>>> David Clark Company Inc.
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sorin
>>>>>>> Srbu Posted At: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 9:26 AM
>>>>>>> Posted To: Windows 2000 Conversation: [windows2000] Windows
>>>>>>> software raid0 Subject: [windows2000] Windows software raid0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suppose I have a 2x disk software raid0-array on a
>>>>>>> win2k3-computer. Would it be possible to add a third disk to the
>>>>>>> already existent raid0-array w/o losing any data? Or is a
>>>>>>> rebuild necessary?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TIA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> no, you must rebuild the partition.
>>>>>> imposible without rebuilding data......
>>>>>
>>>>
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