OK, just wondered what you did. Did you upgrade your member servers first before your DC or the other way round. Joanne Determann <joanne.determann@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } I was successful with my in place upgrades DCs. The biggest scare for me was potentially loosing local cached credentials Joanne. --------------------------------- From: Dave stevens [mailto:london31uk@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:28 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: Windows 2000 domain upgrade Very useful insight. I guess removing a mirror drive is a nice and easy way to get things back up if all doesn't go well. By the way what seems to be the great scare with in-place upgrades? Dave "Leitman, Ken" <ken.leitman@xxxxxxxx> wrote: Yes. How you do this is based on your skill set and comfort level. I have staff who are experienced in upgrade in place, and a lab where we can run through this. I also work with a separate Exchange and DBA group on the upgrade path for their products. We also development servers for our major applications. Not having these makes this a much more difficult decision. For file servers we remove a mirror drive, put in a new drive, wait for re mirror to complete, then do the upgrade (backups done the night before upgrade to verify completeness). On a few hundred GB file server this saves us a lot of time, but practice and test make any of this possible. As usual, some applications will not work through in place upgrades. And trying to do an upgrade with AV etc. still installed could be devastating, kl --------------------------------- From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dogers Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:09 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: Windows 2000 domain upgrade Is it best to do in place upgrades, or to create new machines (or reuse previous member machines, I guess!), join them and seize roles? Andrew On 09/11/05, Leitman, Ken <ken.leitman@xxxxxxxx> wrote: 1) you must go to Windows 2003 SP1 for your DCs. 2) If you have remote offices with DCs check rpc settings for timeouts, we did have some issues with this setting being changed with SP1 3) Verify all hardware drivers with SP1 before you roll it out, some video and other drivers MUST be upgraded, this was our biggest issue and we had issues with SCSI, video and network cards 4) Start simple with local FSMO servers and make sure you have a plan in place to move roles around We did all of our 54 DCs in about three weeks. Without SP1 we ran into all sorts of crazy issues, even with all of our testing. We use HP servers, but we have seen the same driver problems on eval IBM and Dell servers when applying SP1 Remove any third party software you can before any server upgrades, by removing the monitoring, AV and backup software, we were able to script an in place upgrade from W2K to W2K3. Plan, test, plan some more and good luck, thankfully this is less complex than Nt4 à W2K, or initial AD design/implementation, kl --------------------------------- From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joanne Determann Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:00 PM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: Windows 2000 domain upgrade First thing I did was determine the compatibly of all my apps and programs. (Although my Websense DC agent doesn't work now even though their support insisted it was 2003 compatible.) Then I made a spread sheet 'server plan' . what server does what and how it was gonna move things around during the upgrade. Now it's in MS project timeline. My DC's are done, Terminal Servers ( licensing is a biggy),backup and one webserver are complete Doing Exchange next week. --------------------------------- From: Dave stevens [mailto:london31uk@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:53 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Windows 2000 domain upgrade Hi Guys, I have just been tasked with comming up with a detailed plan for our 2000 domain upgrade to 2003. Does anyone have any tips / whitepapers that would help. Currently it is a single domain, multiple sites setup we have. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks Dave --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ----------------------------------------- The information contained in this transmission may be privileged and confidential and is intended only for the use of the person(s) named above. 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