Hi there Here is what I have seen in the past: Get all your information together (I know HR depts like to use information from salary.com). If you feel that you are underpaid, then go to your manager and explain the situation. Explain nicely that you would like your job, but you do not feel that you are being compensated fairly for the job you do. You'd be surprised how cooperative people are if you're really being underpaid. HTH Russell _____ From: Angus Macdonald [mailto:Angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:09 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: Very OT - Salary Range This question crops up every few months on all the technical mailing lists. In a nutshell, there isn't a set salary for any given post. A company will set a salaray and if you don't feel you're worth that salary you'll move on to another company. In my experience that's the only way to get a higher salary, although you may miss out on other benefits as well. For example, I earn considerably less than I could do but to make the higher salary I'd have to move away from an easy drive to work, close proximity to mountains and affordable housing. Those things are important to me so I stay where I am. It all comes down to your own priorities. By all means go to your employer and say "I'm worth $XXXX, give it to me or I'll leave" but unless you are genuinely irreplaceable, better be ready to leave. -----Original Message----- From: Farrugia, Paul [mailto:pfarrugia@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 27 October 2003 17:07 To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Very OT - Salary Range Hi, Sorry for the off-topic post but I was hoping to get some ideas on what the job market is paying for someone with the titles Network Administrator and Senior Network Administrator. I know the economy isn't great right now and that our job market has taken a hit in the salary ranges. I also searched various sites for salary comparisons but I am not sure where they get their numbers from. One site showed that the base pay for a Sr. Network Admin in my area (Clark, NJ) is between 70 and 90k. I don't know if it's based on certifications or not. I work for a Credit Union and they are looking to "restructure" the salary ranges and wanted to put my two cents in. I have no certifications, everything I know I basically taught myself or learned from others. Here are some of my skills and experience: I have an Associates Degree in Computer Technology and am currently attending Rutgers University for a BS in Computer Science. Exchange 5.5/2000 Administrator - 2 years ISA Server 2000/Internet/Proxy/Firewall Administrator - 2 years Cisco Routers - 2 years Windows 2000/NT Network Administrator - 4 years Help Desk - 4 years PC/Laptop Rollouts - 4 years I am also responsible for all network and email backup. My job also is requiring me to have a working knowledge of HTML, XML, Java, and C++ (though I don't know what the hell for and no one will give me a straight answer) I have a 2 page list of daily procedures that I have to check off every day. Some of these tasks include: Ensuring backups were successful Checking logs on servers Monitoring servers Applying patches and hot fixes Help Desk Support We also have kiosks that I have to support and monitor as well as a phone system. My list just keeps getting longer and longer each day and my wallet doesn't get any thicker. Thanks in advance for any input or advice. Paul.