[windows2000] Re: Sus and apache?
- From: Aaron Dokey <adokey@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:13:07 -0400
I think the "build it yourself" nature of unix/apache lends itself to being
easier to secure than the "Out of Box" approach of Win2k/IIS. It all
depends on what side of the computing farm you were raised on.
-Aaron
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Combis [mailto:rcombis@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 3:08 PM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Sus and apache?
It is probably not that long. But the W2K webservers I have, have never =
crashed. I regularly apply the security updates which forces me to =
manually reboot.
My point is however (not directed at you), that many Unix/Linux/Apache =
people bash Windows for being a less stable/secure environment. Where =
in fact, if you know what you are doing, it is ever bit as stable and =
secure.
-----Original Message-----
From: Alfonso Lopez de Ayala [mailto:alopezdeayala@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 2:59 PM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Sus and apache?
Chillisoft has been around for years (at least since ASP 2). I've seen
Apache servers running VBScript/JScript ASP applications thru Chillisoft
up constantly for over 240 days (no reboots) -- that's almost a year!
How long is the longest you've ever had a Windows machine (production
server) running without a reboot?
Does anyone know of anything for ASP.Net in Apache? I must admit that
VisualStudio.Net is the nicest object-oriented web development
environment I've ever seen (even though .Net is a 1.0 technology) -- if
you could just compile those ASP.Net pages for an Apache environment
it'd be a delight.
Isn't NASDAQ run on IIS?
Alfonso
-----Original Message-----
From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Combis
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 11:47 AM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Sus and apache?
I agree Ray. =3D20
One of my friends used Apache only at his last job. He would rant and =
=3D
rave about how much better it was than W2K. Well he ended up doing some
=3D
consulting for my company (coincidentally).......and we are a W2K shop =
=3D
so he needed to learn about W2K....Let's just say he was amazed at how =
=3D
quick tasks can be accomplished and he is now a convert. Bottom line is
=3D
W2K comes working right out of the box, but if you don't know what you =
=3D
are doing, you can thoroughly screw it up very easily. Where as Apache
=3D
is initially much harder to set up, thus deterring much of the crowd who
=3D
would screw it up. Just my opinion....
-----Original Message-----
From: Costanzo, Ray [mailto:rcostanzo@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 2:39 PM
To: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Sus and apache?
Ha! I think what Alfonso means to say is "I never pay any attention to
=3D
what
Ray says on this list. If I did, I'd realize that he HATES wizards and
=3D
all
that other stuff that stupifies things and that he does everything at =
=3D
the
command prompt when possible."
But, yeah, that's not to say that I know anything about Apache. I =3D
don't.
But I still know what I know about IIS! And any time anyone says 2000 =
=3D
or
IIS or whatever is unstable, that means that the person has only =3D
experienced
servers that were setup by jackasses.
Ray at work
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alfonso Lopez de Ayala [mailto:alopezdeayala@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
>=3D20
>=3D20
>=3D20
> Hmmm... I think Ray means to say: "I don't know anything=3D20
> about Apache or
> any other web server, plus if I use software with no GUIs or Wizards I
> might actually understand what is really going on, and thus I wouldn't
> need to be employed for so many hours just to keep the web server
up"=3D20
>=3D20
> :):):)
>=3D20
> Alfonso
>=3D20
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