[windows2000] Re: Storage Solutions

  • From: "Greg Reese" <GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:18:27 -0400

so that just connects to a SCSI Card?
 
am I understanding that right?
 
Greg

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From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Malczewski
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:57 AM
To: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Storage Solutions


IBM's similar...
http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productI
d=8659255&storeId=1&langId=-1&catalogId=-840

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Greg Reese [mailto:GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
        Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 10:37 AM
        To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [windows2000] Re: Storage Solutions
        
        
        nice device.  I may have a hard time convincing them of that
here.  One of the few rules I have on purchases is to try to stick to
IBM wherever possible.  If IBM has anything similar, I can't find it.
All they have is their SAN solution which is insanely expensive.
         
        Those Snap servers look interesting.  And they have gigabit
ports.  That may be the ticket.
         
         
         
        Greg

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        From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Claus, Brian
        Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 9:59 AM
        To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [windows2000] Re: Storage Solutions
        
        
        Greg,
         
        I'd recommend the HP Storage Cabinet 4314.  It's a great step
between server based storage and a SAN.  We have a few of them and have
had no problems.
         
        
http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantstorage/drives-enclos
ures/4300enclosure/description.html
<http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantstorage/drives-enclo
sures/4300enclosure/questionsanswers.html> 
         
         
         
        Here's some quick specs from HP.
        All models of the StorageWorks Enclosure 4300 Family have the
following features: 

        *       Ultra3 (LVD) support - Delivering data transfer rates up
to 160 MB/s per channel 
        *       3U rack height 
        *       A common storage platform allows for future storage
consolidation to the SAN 
        *       Award winning innovative SCA (Single Connect Attach)
direct connect drive carrier - provides better cooling and reliability
for 10K and future 15K drives 
        *       Hot pluggable disk drives, power supplies, and fans 
        *       Redundant fans, redundant power supply and dual bus I/O
module 
        *       Each Enclosure 4314T, 4314R, and 4310R comes with a
single power supply that is sufficient to provide power to the enclosure
and maintain normal operating levels. A second optional redundant power
supply is recommended for higher levels of fault tolerance and
availability. 
        *       Environmental Monitoring Unit (EMU) - Monitors
environmental conditions within the enclosure and components such as the
power supply and fans 
        *       Easy removal of parts provides better serviceability. No
tools are required! 

        Specific features of the StorageWorks Enclosure 4314T, 4314R,
and 4354R include:

        *       Supports up to 14 (1-inch) Ultra 2 or Ultra3 Universal
hard disk drives 
        *       Provides storage capacity of up to 509.6 GB per
enclosure (using 36.4 GB 1-inch disk drives) 
        *       House up to 14-enclosures in one 42U rack for a single
rack storage capacity of up to 7.13 TB of disk storage 
        *       Modular design allows the StorageWorks Enclosure 4300 to
be used in any storage configuration -- from JBOD (Just a Bunch of
Disks) to Smart Array storage enclosures to external multi-vendor
Modular Arrays. 

        Specific features of the StorageWorks Enclosure 4310R and 4350R
include:

        *       Supports up to 10 (1.6-inch) Ultra3 hard disk drives or
10 (1-inch) Ultra2 or Ultra3 Universal hard drives with drive extenders
(top hats) 
        *       1.6-inch disk drive form factor allows MA/EMA customers
to get first access to future disk capacity points 
        *       Provides storage capacity of up to 728 GB per enclosure
(using 72.8 GB 1.6-inch disk drives) 
        *       House up to 14 enclosures in one 42U rack for a single
rack storage capacity of up to 10.1 TB of disk storage 
        *       Full installation and hardware warranty extension
services available 

         

         

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Brian Claus, MCP, Network+, A+
Network Administrator
WESCO Distribution, Inc.
225 West Station Square Drive, Suite 700
Pittsburgh, PA 15219-1122
Phone:  412-454-2412
Fax:  412-454-2540
bclaus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bclaus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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                -----Original Message-----
                From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Greg Reese
                Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 9:28 AM
                To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [windows2000] Storage Solutions
                
                

                I wanted to start a discussion on this to see what the
rest of you are doing and get a better understanding myself as I get
pushed this direction.

                Currently, all our network drives are shared off of one
server.  It has two raid 5 arrays and has about 60GB of total file
space.  All the user home drives are there, plus the departmental
shares, a public chare etc.

                Those drives are nearly full.  My SQL server is running
into the same wall.  I backup my SQL databases to disk then put those
backups on tape.  I have enough disk for the databases but the backups
fail sometimes if the previous nights files don't get removed first.

                I don't think just replacing the current drives on these
servers with bigger drives is the answer. 

                I have looking into setting up a SAN but they cost a
small fortune.  I can generally spend whatever I want here but I can't
justify spending that much on storage.

                I have also looked at those Iomega 1u storage servers
but they seem cheap and a little weak for the kind of reliability I
need.

                What else is there for adding storage?  We have gigabit
Ethernet in place on the server rack.  Most of the clients connect via
Citrix so the connections from their sessions to the other servers is
really good.

                Is there something in between?  A SAN is nice, but I
don't need my servers to boot from it or anything.  I just need storage
available to the network somehow and need it available fast enough that
it doesn't bog things down.

                My other thought is that I can set my backups to backup
to disk and then back that up to tape so users aren't slowed down by
backup.  A couple of DLT drives in a server isn't cutting it for backup
anymore either.

                Thanks! 

                Greg 


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