[windows2000] Re: Salary (windows2000: addressed to exclusive sender for this address)
- From: Bill Beckett <Bill.beckett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:34:23 -0500
Well, really it all boils down to are you happy? I mean we'd all 'like' to
make more money but there's a tradeoff with flex hours, perks, benefits. If
you know you can make more elsewhere but are happier staying where you are
then that's what counts.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:Sorin.Srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:34 AM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Salary (windows2000: addressed to exclusive
sender for this address)
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:57:46 -0500, Bill Beckett wrote:
>You make $29K? You are underpaid
I believe I am. Approximately the same services I do here at the uni, are
paid with about 100000 SEK more a year in the industry, or as consultants. I
do have some perks, like an informal agreement with my employer to be able
to go to at least one conference or course a year. Also the working hours
are pretty flexible. So the salary isn't that high, but OTOH I have perks
that are occasionally pretty sweet.
However as the rent increases for my flat, my overhead kinda' shrinks. Also
the car needs petrol (Am. "gas")... Insurances have to be paid, me and my
wife (and birds) got to eat and so on. Getting a house would probably be
chaper in the long run, say 40 yrs, but then the housing market in Uppsala
is pretty inflamed due to the ppl from the nearby capital city (Stockholm)
then do abandon Stockholm and move to Uppsala with vicinity, and they bring
a lot of money with them, raising hosuing costs. Simply put, I can't even
afford the 10-20% down payment on a 2,5-3 million SEK house... And not even
a big house but rather a small one, at that. 8-(
Or maybe I'm just greedy. And besides, skilled labour isn't that easy to
find. 8-) I also notice how IT digs its own grave in Sweden, with unions and
ppl that don't really need a higher salary demands more and more. And how
companies more och more outsource their IT to India and similar low-salary
countries. Just like in Dilbert. 8-)
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:Sorin.Srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:47 AM
>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [windows2000] Re: Salary (windows2000: addressed to exclusive
>sender for this address)
>
>
>On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:38:38 -0000, Angus Macdonald wrote:
>
>>Ha!
>>I'm senior IT Tech management on £27K
>
>I'm underpaid... Ie about 270000 SEK (37884,63 USD/29442,88
>EUR/20489,47
>GBP) a year before taxes and any sickdays. I'm not an IT manager on paper,
>but I'm who makes all IT-stuff (give or take a
>few) happening on our dept. I've got to get out in the industry instead,
but
>considering how the market for IT-ppl looks in Sweden right now l, I'd
>better stay in a safe place for another while... I work at a university
BTW.
BW,
Sorin
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