[windows2000] Re: Salary (windows2000: addressed to exclusive sender for this address)
- From: Len Milligan <Len.milligan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:18:23 -0000
I'm being ripped off!
In the UK around the Birmingham area the average net admin salary is 20-30K
£
As far as property is concerned you are looking at around 100-130K £ for a
two bed 1 bath no garage property on a patch of land the size of a grave!
-----Original Message-----
From: Angus Macdonald [mailto:Angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 11 November 2004 13:26
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Salary (windows2000: addressed to exclusive
sender for this address)
Stop it! Don't you think I'm miserable enough without hearing what people in
the real world earn?
;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Malczewski [mailto:jmalczewski@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: 10 November 2004 17:49
To: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Salary (windows2000: addressed to exclusive
sender for this address)
Depending on the area, you can get like a 2000 sq foot 4 bedroom 2 bath
ranch with a two car garage on a postage stamp for about $150-160 in a
yuppie suburb, or if you go out to the "sticks" you can get the same house
on like 4 or 5 acres for about the same money.
I'm in the Buffalo area, no where NEAR New York City..
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Stockard [mailto:jstockard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:40 PM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Salary (windows2000: addressed to exclusive
sender for this address)
I believe NY is a lot higher. You can buy a nice 3 bedroom house with a 2
car garage on a 1 1/2 lot for about 150 in a decent suburb. I bought a 3
bedroom house with a 2 car garage on 10 acres for 205 last year.
-----Original Message-----
From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Malczewski
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:35 PM
To: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Salary (windows2000: addressed to exclusive
sender for this address)
Wow.. That sounds kinda low to me.. How does the cost of living compare to
WNY??
Network/System/Exchange type guys make that much around here (at a large
company, anyway)...
I've been on two interviews in the past few months, and they were both
paying into the low 60's for Exchange admins... I'm sure the dept manager
has to be well into the 80's..
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Stockard [mailto:jstockard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:26 PM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Salary (windows2000: addressed to exclusive
sender for this address)
In southeast lower Michigan (which usually, but not always pays better than
upper Michigan), I would guess about 60 to 75K per year US dollars. That is
more than I make for that job, but I started with 5 weeks vacation in my
first year.
Hope this helps
Jeff
Jesus Loves You
-----Original Message-----
From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mauricio Fernandez
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:14 PM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Salary (windows2000: addressed to exclusive
sender for this address)
I am not offended, because most of you are right!!!
Let me explain a bit more.
Jobs here are paid according knowledge. A new IT manager earn between 100k
and 130k a year in local money (the purchasing power of 1 Bs is the same
that half dollar).
But there is no high value for this range, because this kind of job is very
new in this poor country. Good IT managers in very similar jobs earn very
different salaries.
Here down, mostly of us works for USA's corporations or USA Government's
organizations that helps our country, so, if you can tell me the medium
range for this salary in USA, then I can calculate which range should be
ours.
More info:.
Health insurance here is mandatory and very cheap, everybody has one.
Employed here collect once a month from January to November and two salaries
on December.
Vacation depends on antiquity, 2 weeks the first 2 years, 3 weeks from year
3 to year 5 and 4 weeks for 6 year or more.
We work 46 hours a week (6 hours on Saturday)
Mauricio Fernández S.
IT Manager
FDTA - Valles
Tel. 591 4 4525160
Fax. 591 4 4115056
mfernandez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.fdta-valles.org
-----Original Message-----
From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
windows2000.freelists.store@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:42 PM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Salary (windows2000: addressed to exclusive
sender for this address)
I have been mortally offended by this bickering!
Joshua Owen - joshua.owen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> No worries, water off a ducks back! I wasn't insinuating that you were
obligated to do that (especially the part about becoming a linguist and
global monetary mastermind!), I was simply stating that if you were curious
that it would be the easiest way to establish a location! I suppose my
original email was based on sarcasm, so fair do's! Fight fire with fire and
all that! I didn't intend to offend you in first instance, however if I did
I apologise too.
>
> Cheers
> Josh
>
>
>>>>jstockard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 10/11/04 2:19:02 pm >>>
>
> You are correct. I could follow the link to his web site, learn Spanish.
Figure out the city, collect local salary expectations. Find a kid at my
sons school who has done a book report on the local economic conditions.
Print up a 50 page bio on all of the local job openings. Open Excel and put
together a little variable calculator with numeric equivalencies for
differing variables such as vacation time and benefits. Then I could factor
in how valuable each of these are to differing persons dependant on their
marital status and number of children. Publish the results of all factors
and give him a quick answer.
> What was I thinking?
> My point was "you did not even give us the basis to begin to answer the
question".
> Sorry for the sarcasm. This was typed with a whimsical expression in the
spirit of fun. If this offends anyone, I am sorry and I apologize.
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joshua Owen
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:04 AM
> To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [windows2000] Re: Salary
>
> You could always check out the website on his signature if you're after
some geographical clarification! ;-)
>
> Bolivia I think!
>
> I don't know a right lot about their economics/pay structures mind!
>
>
>>>>jstockard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 10/11/04 1:41:28 pm >>>
>
> That number is entirely dependant on other factors, that have nothing to
do with the job description. What I make in Michigan, would be fantastic
money in Tennessee. I would not be able to live on it in California. I
could live extremely comfortable on it in Mexico.
>
> Other factors include benefits. Does the person have to cover some of the
costs of health insurance? Is there a retirement plan? How much paid
vacation time do they have?
>
> An IT Manager in the right part of California, who has all of their health
insurance paid, a retirement plan that the company pays for and 5 weeks of
vacation, would still be making more than an IT Manager in Mexico with no
benefits and 2 weeks vacation.
>
> I know that this is not much of an answer, but you did not give enough
information for a complete answer. It might help to give us at least the
name of your country.
>
> Jeff
>
> Jesus Loves You
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mauricio Fernandez
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 7:39 AM
> To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [windows2000] Salary
>
>
>
> Every single IT person on my country asks me the same question:
>
>
>
> How much money should earn an IT manager?
>
>
>
> Can you give me some ideas?
>
>
>
> Mauricio Fernández S.
>
> IT Manager
>
> FDTA - Valles
>
> Tel. 591 4 4525160
>
> Fax. 591 4 4115056
>
> mfernandez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> www.fdta-valles.org
>
>
>
>
>
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