Sorry. Didn't yet read all the posts. Just responding to the immediate question. It looks a little different after reading the rest of the thread. Tom Erdely http://erdely.no -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] P=E5 vegne av Sullivan, Glenn Sendt: 18. november 2002 19:00 Til: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Emne: [windows2000] Re: SV: Re: 192.168.*.* - why? Tom, I understand that. I was really asking Jeff how he believes that the two are inter-related... HTH, Glenn Sullivan, MCSE+I MCDBA David Clark Company Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Erdely [mailto:tom@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:48 PM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] SV: Re: 192.168.*.* - why? Nothing. These IP ranges (or any IP ranges for that matter) have no effect on how DNS behaves (except for network, broadcast and multicast ranges of course). Whether they are for private use or not. Hope that helps, Tom Erdely http://erdely.no -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] P=3DE5 vegne av Sullivan, = Glenn Sendt: 18. november 2002 18:46 Til: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Emne: [windows2000] Re: 192.168.*.* - why? OK, but what does that have to do with DNS? They don't mention DNS in that blurb. Glenn Sullivan, MCSE+I MCDBA David Clark Company Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Stockard [mailto:JStockard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:30 PM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: 192.168.*.* - why? From this site on IP addresses: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/coreprot/chapter/appb.html Where it says "there are groups of "private" Internet addresses that can be used on internal networks by anyone. These address pools were set aside in RFC 1918, and therefore cannot be "assigned" to any organization. The Internet's backbone routers are configured explicitly not to route packets with these addresses, so they are completely useless outside of an organization's internal network. The address blocks available are listed in Table B-4." Any addresses in 10.x.x.x -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Ensor [mailto:densor@xxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20 Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 11:59 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: 192.168.*.* - why? Dark N' snowy?? -----Original Message----- From: Robert Funderburk [mailto:robfunderburk@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:54 PM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: 192.168.*.* - why? What are you talking about with "outside DNS" ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Stockard" <JStockard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:52 AM Subject: [windows2000] Re: 192.168.*.* - why? > > That was my point. They don't have anything to do with outside DNS. If > you used an address that was in the outside DNS range, you would = be=3D20 > continually looking to the DNS table to find other PC's on your network. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sullivan, Glenn [mailto:GSullivan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D3D20 > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:20 AM > To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [windows2000] Re: 192.168.*.* - why? > > > <----------Snip--------> > Companies use theses schemes so their requests for data will not look to > the > outside DNS list. This makes the lookup a little faster, when you can > skip the rest of the entire Internet and just look on your Intranet.=20 > <----------Snip--------> > > What do you mean? These reserved address ranges really don't = have=3D20=20 > anything to do with DNS, to my knowledge. > > A little confused I guess. That's what happens when you wake up=20 > with=3D20 three inches of ice covering everything... > > Glenn Sullivan, MCSE+I MCDBA > David Clark Company Inc. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Stockard [mailto:JStockard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:12 AM > To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [windows2000] Re: 192.168.*.* - why? > > > > They are non routable. The same is true with 10.x.x.x. Companies use > theses schemes so their requests for data will not look to the outside > DNS list. This makes the lookup a little faster, when you can skip the > rest of the entire Internet and just look on your Intranet. Hope=20 > this=3D20 helps Jeff Jesus Loves You > > -----Original Message----- > From: Costanzo, Ray [mailto:rcostanzo@xxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D3D3D20 > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 8:59 AM > To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [windows2000] 192.168.*.* - why? > > > Hi list, > > I'm just curious about something. It seems that most networks use > 192.168.*.* for their internal addresses. Why? It doesn't = really=3D20=20 > matter, does it? Isn't 192.168.*.* completely arbitrary? My theory on > how this came to be the norm is that MS used those addresses in=20 > some=3D20 samples in some books or something, and people started using = > that and it > just became the norm. But then there's that whole Internet connection > sharing feature that came out in what, W98SE? With that, the computer > that's sharing its Internet connection will be 192.168.1.1. So, = I=3D20=20 > imagine that it's coded somewhere into other OS'es to look to see=20 > if=3D20 192.168.1.1 can be used as a gateway when the user does not=20 > specify an > IP configuration. So what came first? 192.168.*.* or computers looking > to 192.168.1.1 as a gateway? 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