[windows2000] Re: Profiles!!! - Printers actually - now print drivers
- To: <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:02:45 -0500
okay, I found this article:
http://www.printingsupport.com/proces.htm
It states that a slow logon/logoff is a printer driver issue. Does anyone know
anyway to watch someone logon and see what is going on in the print mappings?
Gunnar
-----Original Message-----
From: Berger, Gunnar
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 1:00 PM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Profiles!!! - Printers actually
I am using Clients 7.0 and 7.1 some old 6.x are out there, it is all the same.
I'm not getting blue screens like a normal driver conflict would do, the logons
just take forever. There has to be some settings somewhere about Client
printer mappings on logons. Inside those settings is going to be the answer.
Or some hotfix did this to me.
Gunnar
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Ensor [mailto:densor@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 11:42 AM
To: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Profiles!!! - Printers actually
They won't let me do the default printer thing here.
I guess it also depends on what printers/drivers are needed. I have had some
beastly printers to set-up (thermal label etc, photocopiers) and the drivers
tend to blue screen the servers, though CTX XP is much better for all that.
What version of the client is he using (I think I missed that?!)
I thought the joke was funny though maybe not as much as Ray and his home
network stuff :P But then I am a geek :)
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Reese [mailto:GReese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 4:32 PM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Profiles!!! - Printers actually
I have no problems with it and most of my clients connect that way. I have
it set to only create the default printer so that helps some. I think there
is an option somewhere in there about waiting for printers to be created in
the app setup. That would slow it down too.
Maybe a newer version of the ICA client would speed this up for him.
-----Original Message-----
From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Daniel Ensor
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 11:13 AM
To: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Profiles!!! - Printers actually
Turn that off. Create a local printer on the server and create a new local
port with the UNC to the printer. Then try and log on and obviously test the
printers.
Printer autocreation is dodgy at the best of times in my humble experience.
Any comments list?
Cheers
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: Berger, Gunnar [mailto:GBerger@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 4:00 PM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Profiles!!! - Printers actually
yes
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Ensor [mailto:densor@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 10:49 AM
To: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Profiles!!! - Printers actually
Have you got the clients set to autocreate their printers on CITIRX?
Cheers
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: Berger, Gunnar [mailto:GBerger@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 3:19 PM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Profiles!!! - Printers actually
Importance: High
BOYA!!! I finally tracked down this little terd. Here is the deal. When a
users logs in that has PRINTERS installed locally, it takes forever for the
application to load. This is not a profile issue or a domain issue as I
have stated before. I know for a fact that this is a printers issue. I had
a user running at 8 seconds, then I added a fake printer onto their local
machine. It then took about a minute and a half to load the application.
When they exit it takes another minute or so for the Citrix session to
disconnect. This is printer related. Here I'll remove the printer again
and see what happens to logons and logoffs...
...oh yeah! 8 seconds again. What is up with printers causing a long
logon? (and logoff)
Gunnar
-----Original Message-----
From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:40 AM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Profiles
i will attack modprof in a little bit right now let's deal with the long
logons. I am now using the uphclean service and it has gotten rid of my
userenv errors. Still the long logons remain. What I have done right now
is I built a new machine didn't add it into the domain and it logs on in
seconds. I then took the next step and added it to the domain, only takes a
few seconds to logon. I'm about to take this same machine and do it under a
differnet username, one that has a huge profile to see if the error still
exists. I will post in a little bit.
Gunnar
-----Original Message-----
From: Braebaum, Neil [mailto:Neil.Braebaum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 4:59 AM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Re: Profiles
> Subject: [windows2000] Re: Profiles
> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:41:54 -0500
> From: "Berger, Gunnar" <GBerger@xxxxxxxxxx>
>
> So you use modprof without issue?
Yup, have used it for a number of years without issue, and before that,
the earlier versions.
I note you'll always get the recommendations for commercial products to
do this, and all I would say is - if that's worth it for you as an
individual / company - then fine and dandy, but there is no technical
reason why the MS tools won't do the job.
> I'm looking at to clean
> Citrix servers right now and would love to get modprof
> utility to work on it.
Believe me, there's no reason why modprof doesn't, or shouldn't work.
I've been using it (and it's predecessors) for years to dynamically
create outlook profiles for Citrix / terminal server users, that have
mandatory profiles.
> I also have already tried logging
> someone on to this server only to find it takes 45 seconds to
> log in (this is actually an improvement current logins take 3
> minutes). However even 45 seconds is rediculous. I turned
> off profiles and had these guys run off a local profile and
> it still take forever to log in. I may have to call MS on this.
Sounds a bit odd - you could always do the userenv debugging thing to
get a more detailed picture of what's happening during login. I take it
there's nothing odd in the event log?
Neil
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