I'm independent, but when I was in house, if my manager said "fix VP Smith's computer at home so his son can play Tonk in the land of Buddy Bots, and put everything else aside," I would have said aye aye cap'n, and reflected that in my status/timesheet. However, if s(he) said "Do that and also get all these other items done in the same time frame as originally assigned" I would have called them on it. BTW, I have a client that had me roll her old PC, and set it up for her children to use. I said "no problem." A billable hour is a billable hour. Hope I didn't date myself with that Tonk reference... - Bob Coffman -----Original Message----- From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Farrugia, Paul Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 10:56 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] OT - Question about supporting Personal PC's Hello, sorry this is way off topic but I need to vent before I get myself fired by beating someone with a keyboard, I was wondering what others are doing or would do with situations similar to this: I work for a credit union. We have Board members who are given "perks" each year (laptops, desktops, cell phones, etc.). When something goes wrong with one of these devices (usually do to user's negligence) they expect our IT department to fix them. Our upper management is too busy brown nosing the board so they expect us to fix these problems as well. Last Friday I was told by the VP of my department that on Monday (yesterday) I would have to go to one of our branch locations to meet with one of the board members because he cannot dial up to AOL on a desktop PC that we gave him a year and a half ago and he was also having other problems. I had to bite my tongue while my VP told me this. As soon as he left I went to my manager told him that this was a load of horse crap and he agreed with me. (By the way I am the only network admin here and I have 12 laptops, 4 desktops and a new server to set up). I made the suggestion of having the board member overnight the PC to us or having someone in our branch send it for him so he doesn't have to get his hands dirty. This would have been more cost efficient as well. Well, my VP who I guess knows more then me said no. Go figure. Anyway I go and get the PC and bring it back to my office. Today I am told that the PC needs to be returned by Thursday the latest. (Oh by the way I cannot fed ex it back to him as per my VP). My manager tells me to work on that PC only, forget everything else and just do that. He doesn't agree with what is going on as well. So I boot the PC up and of course every program you can think of is installed on it, except for the anti- virus program which I know at one point was on the machine because I installed it myself. I can also tell that his teenage daughter uses the pc for things that teens do these days. I run a virus scan and guess what the PC is infected with 4 Trojan horses. Also windows update hasn't been done in the longest of time. Basically I am trying to find out if this is something that I should have to do for the fear of losing my job or do I have any recourse in situations like these. I think this is totally ridiculous that we can give someone a "perk" and he can abuse it and expect us to fix it. Thanks for listening, Paul.