Just wondering how you can prevent users from havin multiple logons in windows 2003. It was easy with NT4.0. I am sure it is easy with 2003, but just havent figured it out yet. Thanks Patrick ________________________________ From: Sorin Srbu <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:05:27 PM Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions I guess a nudge in the "proper" direction is all you can do. The rest is up to them. 8-) I've worked as a teacher with pupils age 14-16 for about two years at a school. I haven't met anyone that knows anything about a career plan, much less a pupil that listens to anything a grown-up suggests about something that's years ahead in the future. Their attention-span is minutes ahead of the moment, if that. I'm generalish I know, but it's still a rather significant fact. ;-) -- /Sorin >-----Original Message----- >From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000- >bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick >Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:17 AM >To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions > >True, but I think the emphasis would be on helping them channel their ability >in the >right direction. What you might find is that these kids have a talent which we >can help >harness, and direct. This might potentially help them with a meaningful career >in the >future. What we tend to see is raw talent, unproductive and mis-directed. >This particular kid wants a career in IT, but I am very sure he doesnt know >what. >This might help him channel his thoughts in the right direction, and be better >informed >when he makes his choice. > >But then, I might be wrong, and we might just be dealing with seasoned Hackers. > > >Thanks > >Patrick > > >________________________________ > >From: Sorin Srbu <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:49:23 AM >Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions > >The risk here is that as soon as it's something organized by adults, the chase >loses >its attraction. OTOH, setting up a lab-network and telling them to hack this >and this >computer and find a file containing this particular text, might set them off. >Kinda' like >a treasure hunt. The coin has two sides though, as always. They might use the >same techniques to hack you sharp production network, "just to see if it's >possible". >;-) > >-- >/Sorin > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000- >>bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick >>Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 7:17 AM >>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions >> >>He must be about 15/16. Cos there was the talk of him taking his final exams. >>I am >>begining to notice a trend in all the schools I support. We seem to have >>about 3 or 4 >>kids that are good @ things like that. Well these are kids we know, and I am >thinking >>of suggesting setting up a special technology group to help them chanel thier >>gift >>constructively. >>I might create a mini lab/ network with a dozen old pcs, and get them to play >>and >>reaaly focusing and directing thier intelligent on good. Not sure how the >>principals >>would take that, but I sure will suggest this to the IT director. >> >> >>Patrick >> >> >>________________________________ >> >>From: Sorin Srbu <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 8:10:27 AM >>Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions >> >>Nice, and also rather ingenious IMO! >> >>How old kid(s) are we speaking? >> >>-- >>/Sorin >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000- >>>bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick >>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 6:12 PM >>>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions >>> >>>ok guys, after some serious talking to, the kid has decided to let us in on >>>some of >>his >>>tricks. >>> >>> >>> >>>1. Download zip files allows him to get to the C: drive by being able >>>to access >>the >>>Temp Internet files. >>> >>>2. If he disconnects the computer from the network, it installs a local >>>profile for >>>him, giving him access to the C: drive and the “Run” command. >>> >>>3. He runs a “compressed” cmd file from within PowerPoint. >>> >>>4. By running “Find Printer” he is able to find users accounts. >>> >>>5. He accesses “command.com <http://command.com/> ><http://command.com/> ” (the equivalent of >>cmd.exe). >>> >>>6. He runs cmd.exe to get to files on the servers. >>> >>> >>> >>>Should this kid not be studying, rather than keeping me busy? >>> >>> >>>Anyway, just thought to share. >>> >>> >>> >>>Thanks >>> >>>Patrick >>> >>> >>>________________________________ >>> >>>From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> >>>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:54:33 PM >>>Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions >>> >>>Yes I understand kids will be kids but it covers you. >>>Jim Kenzig >>>Blog: http://www.techblink.com >>>Twitter: http://twitter.com/kenzig >>>Twitter: http://twitter.com/InternetPilot >>> >>> >>> >>>On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Patrick <london31uk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi Jim, >>> >>> This is an idea I have suggested, and I think there is a good case to >>>push this forward. Whats I have found is that no matter how tight you try to >>>make >>>things the kids will seek to break in. In most cases because they do not >understand >>>what the consequences could be if enforced. >>> >>> Really annoying. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Patrick >>> >>> >>> >>>________________________________ >>> >>> From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms/ <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> >>> To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:59:44 PM >>> >>> Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - >>>suggestions >>> >>> >>> Well I am not sure about Australia but here we do have computer >>>hacking laws and a simple "Your current computer activity appears to be >>>illegal >and >>>you may be prosecuted if you do not cease and desist" dm to the computer may >be >>>enough. You of course also make sure that you have a proper logon privacy >>>message in place prior to logon that requires an OK click. >>> Here is ours: >>> >>> THIS SYSTEM IS FOR USE OF AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND >>>ACTIVITIES ONLY! >>> Activities may be subject to monitoring, recording, and periodic audits >>> The system and all content are property of CCPL and are NOT >>>considered private. >>> The organization may access any users accounts or communications. >>> Anyone using this system expressly consents to the above and to all >>>CCPL Policies and Rules regarding >>> computer and Internet use and security. >>> OK >>> >>> This should cover you legally at least. >>> Regards >>> Jim Kenzig >>> Blog: http://www.techblink.com <http://www.techblink.com/> ><http://www.techblink.com/> >><http://www.techblink.com/> >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/kenzig >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/InternetPilot >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Berny Stapleton >>><berny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Yes, it was actually regedit and they were modifying the >>>SAM. >>> >>> Quite clever really, but a little frustrating. >>> >>> 2009/3/25 Robert K Coffman Jr. -Info From Data Corp. >>> <bcoffman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >>> >>> > Scheduled task can run in System context & allow >>>someone to launch a cmd >>> > prompt or something with basically full control of the >>>system. >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >>>Of Sorin Srbu >>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:39 AM >>> > To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your >>>network - suggestions >>> > >>> > Could you please elaborate on the scheduler thing, >>>what's that about? Thx. >>> > -- >>> > /Sorin >>> > >>> > >>> >>-----Original Message----- >>> >>From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>[mailto:windows2000- >>> >>bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Berny Stapleton >>> >>Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:38 PM >>> >>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your >>>network - suggestions >>> >> >>> >>Oh, turn off the scheduler. Keep your patches up to >>>date. (That's the >>> >>one that caught me) >>> > >>> > >>> > ********************** >>> > To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation >>> > mode or view archives use the below link. >>> > >>> > //www.freelists.org/list/windows2000 >>> > >>> ********************** >>> To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation >>> mode or view archives use the below link. >>> >>> //www.freelists.org/list/windows2000 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >