[windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions

  • From: Patrick <london31uk@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:59:26 -0700 (PDT)



Just wondering how you can prevent users from havin multiple logons in windows 
2003. It was easy with NT4.0. I am sure it is easy with 2003, but just havent 
figured it out yet.


Thanks


Patrick




________________________________
From: Sorin Srbu <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:05:27 PM
Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions

I guess a nudge in the "proper" direction is all you can do. The rest is up to 
them. 8-)

I've worked as a teacher with pupils age 14-16 for about two years at a school. 
I haven't met anyone that knows anything about a career plan, much less a pupil 
that listens to anything a grown-up suggests about something that's years ahead 
in the future. Their attention-span is minutes ahead of the moment, if that. 
I'm generalish I know, but it's still a rather significant fact. ;-)
-- 
/Sorin


>-----Original Message-----
>From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-
>bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick
>Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:17 AM
>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions
>
>True, but I think the emphasis would be on helping them channel their ability 
>in the
>right direction. What you might find is that these kids have a talent which we 
>can help
>harness, and direct. This might potentially help them with a meaningful career 
>in the
>future. What we tend to see is raw talent, unproductive and mis-directed.
>This particular kid wants a career in IT, but I am very sure he doesnt know 
>what.
>This might help him channel his thoughts in the right direction, and be better 
>informed
>when he makes his choice.
>
>But then, I might be wrong, and we might just be dealing with seasoned Hackers.
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Patrick
>
>
>________________________________
>
>From: Sorin Srbu <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:49:23 AM
>Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions
>
>The risk here is that as soon as it's something organized by adults, the chase 
>loses
>its attraction. OTOH, setting up a lab-network and telling them to hack this 
>and this
>computer and find a file containing this particular text, might set them off. 
>Kinda' like
>a treasure hunt. The coin has two sides though, as always. They might use the
>same techniques to hack you sharp production network, "just to see if it's 
>possible".
>;-)
>
>--
>/Sorin
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-
>>bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick
>>Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 7:17 AM
>>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions
>>
>>He must be about 15/16. Cos there was the talk of him taking his final exams. 
>>I am
>>begining to notice a trend in all the schools I support. We seem to have 
>>about 3 or 4
>>kids that are good @ things like that. Well these are kids we know, and I am
>thinking
>>of suggesting setting up a special technology group to help them chanel thier 
>>gift
>>constructively.
>>I might create a mini lab/ network with a dozen old pcs, and get them to play 
>>and
>>reaaly focusing and directing  thier intelligent on good. Not sure how the 
>>principals
>>would take that, but I sure will suggest this to the IT director.
>>
>>
>>Patrick
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>>
>>From: Sorin Srbu <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 8:10:27 AM
>>Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions
>>
>>Nice, and also rather ingenious IMO!
>>
>>How old kid(s) are we speaking?
>>
>>--
>>/Sorin
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-
>>>bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick
>>>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 6:12 PM
>>>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions
>>>
>>>ok guys, after some serious talking to, the kid has decided to let us in on 
>>>some of
>>his
>>>tricks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>1.      Download zip files allows him to get to the C: drive by being able 
>>>to access
>>the
>>>Temp Internet files.
>>>
>>>2.      If he disconnects the computer from the network, it installs a local 
>>>profile for
>>>him, giving him access to the C: drive and the “Run” command.
>>>
>>>3.      He  runs a “compressed” cmd file from within PowerPoint.
>>>
>>>4.      By running “Find Printer” he is able to find users accounts.
>>>
>>>5.      He accesses “command.com <http://command.com/>
><http://command.com/> ” (the equivalent of
>>cmd.exe).
>>>
>>>6.      He runs cmd.exe to get to files on the servers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Should this kid not be studying, rather than keeping me busy?
>>>
>>>
>>>Anyway, just thought to share.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:54:33 PM
>>>Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network - suggestions
>>>
>>>Yes I understand kids will be kids but it covers you.
>>>Jim Kenzig
>>>Blog: http://www.techblink.com
>>>Twitter: http://twitter.com/kenzig
>>>Twitter: http://twitter.com/InternetPilot
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Patrick <london31uk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>    Hi Jim,
>>>
>>>    This is an idea I have suggested, and I think there is a good case to
>>>push this forward. Whats I have found is that no matter how tight you try to 
>>>make
>>>things the kids will seek to break in. In most cases because they do not
>understand
>>>what the consequences could be if enforced.
>>>
>>>    Really annoying.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Thanks
>>>
>>>    Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>    From: Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms/ <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>    To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>    Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:59:44 PM
>>>
>>>    Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your network -
>>>suggestions
>>>
>>>
>>>    Well I am not sure about Australia but here we do have computer
>>>hacking laws and a simple "Your current computer activity appears to be 
>>>illegal
>and
>>>you may be prosecuted if you do not cease and desist" dm to the computer may
>be
>>>enough.  You of course also make sure that you have a proper logon privacy
>>>message in place prior to logon that requires an OK click.
>>>    Here is ours:
>>>
>>>    THIS SYSTEM IS FOR USE OF AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND
>>>ACTIVITIES ONLY!
>>>    Activities may be subject to monitoring, recording, and periodic audits
>>>    The system and all content are property of CCPL and are NOT
>>>considered private.
>>>    The organization may access any users accounts or communications.
>>>    Anyone using this system expressly consents to the above and to all
>>>CCPL Policies and Rules regarding
>>>    computer and Internet use and security.
>>>      OK
>>>
>>>    This should cover you legally at least.
>>>    Regards
>>>    Jim Kenzig
>>>    Blog: http://www.techblink.com <http://www.techblink.com/>
><http://www.techblink.com/>
>><http://www.techblink.com/>
>>>    Twitter: http://twitter.com/kenzig
>>>    Twitter: http://twitter.com/InternetPilot
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Berny Stapleton
>>><berny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>        Yes, it was actually regedit and they were modifying the
>>>SAM.
>>>
>>>        Quite clever really, but a little frustrating.
>>>
>>>        2009/3/25 Robert K Coffman Jr. -Info From Data Corp.
>>>        <bcoffman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>
>>>        > Scheduled task can run in System context & allow
>>>someone to launch a cmd
>>>        > prompt or something with basically full control of the
>>>system.
>>>        >
>>>        > -----Original Message-----
>>>        > From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>        > [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>>Of Sorin Srbu
>>>        > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:39 AM
>>>        > To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>        > Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your
>>>network - suggestions
>>>        >
>>>        > Could you please elaborate on the scheduler thing,
>>>what's that about? Thx.
>>>        > --
>>>        > /Sorin
>>>        >
>>>        >
>>>        >>-----Original Message-----
>>>        >>From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>[mailto:windows2000-
>>>        >>bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Berny Stapleton
>>>        >>Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:38 PM
>>>        >>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>        >>Subject: [windows2000] Re: How to tighten up your
>>>network - suggestions
>>>        >>
>>>        >>Oh, turn off the scheduler. Keep your patches up to
>>>date. (That's the
>>>        >>one that caught me)
>>>        >
>>>        >
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