I went to M$ site the other day and I'm going to download the trial version of XP 64bit. Give it the once over. Question though, if I was to put 4GB ram in the new machine, I guess I would have to take out at least 1, maybe 2GB when I run the 32bit OS, correct? I mean, although the manual said that having more memory wouldn't do any damage, but I would like to play it safe if possible. <shrug> On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:51:42 +0200, "Sorin Srbu" <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> came up with this: > Charles R. Buchanan <> wrote on Friday, September 28, 2007 7:58 PM: > > Running games on a 32b-windows os (incl Vista") with more than 3GB of RAM will > freeze it. Only solution is to use a 64b OS. I think the same limitation may > be with 32b-linux as well. > > 32b OS:es are long since old hat. I've been running WinXP SP2 x64 for more > than a year now and have had my irritations. Most have been solved with > workarounds and I like the stability better with XP x64, after all it's built > on Win2k3 Server... > > I recently got a 64b-aware UPHClean 2.0 from MS to try out. Profile-problem > have been an issue for ever since the start with XP x64. Seems like it's now > been resolved. > > Only thing left is for MS to release the 64b Power toys, and I'm happy. 8-) > > > > > > There seems to have been a slight change of plans! :-) Fry's had/have a > > ASUS M2A-VM motherboard and AMD Athlon x2 AM2 5600+ combo on sale for > > $190USD. So I bought it! :-) Sure, the MB is an earlier model than > > the MB I had in mind, but the deal saved me some bucks! Have to go out > > and buy a Fan/heatsink for it, and also the memory. > > > > Speaking of such, it states in the manual that it is recommended that > > less than 3GB of ram be installed if running the 32bit version of XP or > > Vista. I heard that someone where else I do believe. Seeing that > > developing 64 bit apps are at a crawl, looks like the full memory > > capacity of the MB will never be seen/realized! :-O > > > > > > On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:54:23 +0200, "Sorin Srbu" <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > came up with this: > > > >> Charles R. Buchanan <> wrote on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:39 PM: > >> > >> You really need 2GB of RAM to make Vista happy and run at the (somewhat) > >> same speed as XP? > >> > >> What kind of cpu (and other hw) do run your Vista on? Stationary or > >> portable? > >> > >> I've only tried Vista as a VM in VMWare Server as RC2 or something like > >> that and it of course sucked big time, but that was rather expected. The > >> only other Vista I've run was on a spanking brand new HP 6715s notebook I > >> bought for one of the staff at the dept. It came with Vista Basic > >> preinstalled and run off of an AMD Turion 3200+ or something like that and > >> had 1G RAM. From first switching it on until I could logon and check it > >> out, it took more than two hours... Well in, it felt really sluggish. I > >> checked the overall index on it and it was 3, with about half of the > >> checked things at 4. Assuming 5 is top notch I was rather dissapointed > >> with Vista. It wasn't like the Basic-version runs a lot bling-bling, bells > >> and whistles. > >> > >> I nuked this Vista install and installed XP SP2 and sure enough it felt a > >> lot more speedy, slick and smooth. Granted portables are almost always more > >> sluggish than their stationary variants, but this much?? > >> > >> We're not going Vista anytime soon... In best case scenario, not until > >> 2011, or whenever XP isn't supported anymore. > >> > >> > >> > >>> Actually I when I got the Business version and installed it, I was > >>> pleasantly surprised that I actually liked it. It took me awhile to let > >>> go of W2K in favor of XP, but once I did, there was no looking back! :-) > >>> > >>> Sure there are a couple of things that I didn't like, such as, I now > >>> have to go out and buy a more expensive sound card because SB doesn't > >>> support the Live 5.1 card any more, thus no Vista drivers. I like Kerio > >>> firewall, but it won't install under Vista so I have to use Zone Alarm. > >>> :-O > >>> > >>> I have also found that Vista likes it better if you install it on a > >>> primary (active) partition when dual booting. :-( XP is the primary OS > >>> on this machine and since I have sound card issues, I have to keep XP > >>> because that is where my games are located! :-) The overall speed though > >>> is what REALLY surprised me though. I have 2gb of ram so that helps a > >>> LOT, and I haven't tried the ready boost feature, but that's suppose to > >>> speed things up too from what I heard. > >>> > >>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:19:32 -0400, "Jim Kenzig ThinHelp.com" > >>> <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> came up with this: > >>> > >>>> Lol I can tell you that there are supposed to be immense improvements to > >>>> networking and GPO. I really hope that they have it out by the end of the > >>>> year. I am rolling out Vista machines to our staff January of next year. > >>>> Vista can be so dumbed down if you take the time to look just like > >>>> Windows 2000 or XP, I've done this so there is no culture shock to our > >>>> staff. Jim > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 9/26/07, Charles R. Buchanan <daphatbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>> Maybe > >>>> because they haven't found a way to bootleg it (Vista) yet? ;-) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:50:52 +0200, "Sorin Srbu" > >>>> <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> came up with this: > >>>> > >>>> > Chris Berry <> wrote on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:38 PM: > > >>>> > No wonder the Chinese skipped Vista in favour of WinXP for the 2008 > >>> > >>>> Olympics... >>8-> > > >>>> > I hope our beloved software provider Microsoft gets the hint... > >>> > >>>> > > >>>> > > Anything before SP2 is a beta version, didn't you know that by > now? > >>>> > > > > Chris Berry > > chris_berry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> > > Information Advisory Manager > >>>> > > JM Associates > >>>> > > > >>>> > > "The measure of success is not whether you have a tough problem to > >>>> deal > > with, but whether it's the same problem you had last year. > >>>> -John Foster > > Dulles" > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > Ray Costanzo wrote: > >>>> > >> I hope SP1 is essentially a brand new operating system, > considering > >>>> how > >> awful Vista is. > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> *From:* > >>>> > >> <mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> > >> [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Jim > Kenzig > >>>> > >> ThinHelp.com > >> *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2007 7:10 PM > >> > >>>> *To:* THIN; windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; vista@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >>>> *Subject:* [windows2000] Announcing beta release of Windows Vista SP1! > >>> > >>>> >> > >> > >> > >>>> > >> Today Microsoft released the beta of Windows Vista Service Pack > one > >>>> to > >> select MVP's and beta testers. You will find customer ready > >>>> information > >> about Windows Vista SP1 at > >>>> > >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/bb738089.aspx as > >>>> well as, > >> the Windows Vista blog at > >>>> > >> http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/default.aspx > >>>>> > >>>> > >> There are some very exciting enhancements that I can't wait to > tell > >>>> you > >> about once MS releases them from NDA. 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