Re: Can't get into preferences, in 5.434 Beta...

  • From: "Mac Norins" <macatack5@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:22:58 -0700

Thanks, Chris for moderating on this!  I totally concur with what you are 
saying.  Let me say, though, that if someone gives me information, on an 
intermediate or advanced level and I don't articulate what I am trying to 
say, correctly, isn't it incumbent upon that person to slow down and try to 
walk me through  it?  Otherwise, isn't there just a tendency to "feed your 
ego", as to your expertise, as it were?  That seems to happen, a lot, on 
this list.  Since you just explained that it is an intermediate or advanced 
list, then, maybe, as you continue to help people to get to that level, you 
need to help us to understand what is going on!  I can't stress this point 
enough!  Now, back to the experimentation, with build 1178 (not 1158) of 
version 5.34 Beta!  I don't think that I will be doing much more with this 
Beta thing, though, because it is pretty scary to my computer system and I 
don't want to create other problems.  If you could recommend a person that 
is able and willing to tutor me, in this realm, by all means, do so!  Thanks 
for all of your help!

-Mac-
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: Can't get into preferences, in 5.434 Beta...


Hi Mac

I'm not sure what experience you have with Windows itself, but if
you're confused about some of the concepts, you might like to join
another list to ask other sort of windows related questions.
This way, you'll have a better understanding of the type of things
that Jim, myself and others are talking about.  This list is for
people who are intermediate to advanced Windows users, so you are
going to see some more advanced stuff. it's not always easy to walk
folks through things, nice as it is.
So, when you see posts like this, it's not as if that the more
advanced users on the list are trying to be rude or abrupt, far from it.
It's just that you aren't understanding the exchange of
information.  If you really wanna try to learn about things, ask
about specific terms that you're fuzzy on. Like for example, if you
don't understand a term that Jim, myself, or someone else is using,
just write in and say hey, I'm not sure what you're refering to here,
could you elaborate or explain what you mean by *insert term you
aren't sure about here*? if you do we'll be happy too.  But to do
that, we have to know exactly what you're not sure about, so it helps
to be specific.  That way, we'll all help each other which is what
the list is all about, that's the goal here.


  At 12:49 PM 3/17/2007, you wrote:
>Jim,
>
>One of the reasons that you are not understanding my problems at all is 
>that
>you seem to be expecting that your instructions are understandable to a
>novice!  I have some Win Amp experience, but, alas, not a lot of
>understanding of the inner workings, as you seem to have.  So, when you
>offer these instructions, you just might offer them with a sense that I
>probably will not have a clue as to what you are talking about, OK?  I will
>read over your post, quite a few times, until it sinks in, or, maybe, if I
>am lucky, you will walk me through it, very slowly!
>
>Thanks,
>
>-Mac-
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jim Grimsby JR." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 2:16 AM
>Subject: RE: Can't get into preferences, in 5.434 Beta...
>
>
>Hi I am not understanding your problem at all. Just move down in the tree
>find the option you want hit f6 to switch frames. All the options should be
>there in the next frame.
>This is a standard windows command hence it being added to the jaws scripts
>to provide functionality.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mac Norins
>Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 10:53 PM
>To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Can't get into preferences, in 5.434 Beta...
>
>
>Oh, I read your post over again!  I still don't know what you mean by not
>confirmed; which part of my original message is not confirmed?  Anyway, I 
>am
>
>using JAWS 8 , XP Home, Sp2, but, I.E.6, not 7!  BTW, I got the build 1178,
>a couple of hours ago and was able to get into preferences, configure some
>things, but, I am still not able to navigate the library very well!  I sure
>wish someone would tell a person how to configure this puppy nearly
>completely or, failing that, just what to do to get to the place where the
>library is as it used to be, because it is really not too useable right 
>now,
>
>unless one is a very advanced user of Win Amp and I have been using it for 
>a
>
>few years!
>
>How are you faring with the library?  I used to be able to have a whole 
>list
>
>of ripped folders, could burn a CD, could even create a Disc Writer
>crossfaded CD, from the SQR program, but, right now, nothing!
>
>
>Mac ----- Original Message -----
>From: "arlene" <nedster6@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 9:14 PM
>Subject: Re: Can't get into preferences, in 5.434 Beta...
>
>
>Not confirmed! Using the latest beta, Jaws 8.0  win xp home  sp2 IE 7
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mac Norins" <macatack5@xxxxxxx>
>To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 10:43 AM
>Subject: Can't get into preferences, in 5.434 Beta...
>
>
> >I can't enter into preferences, in the 5.34 Beta!  I get an error
> >message,  when I hit Control P, that says something like this: "Unknown
> >script  called
> > to: goto win amp preferences", which then spells out g o t o w i n a m
> >p p  r
> > e f e r e n c e s   It is as if it were a code!  Is this a peculiarity 
> > of
> > the Beta version, or what?
> >
> > Any help appreciated, especially from more advanced users!  BTW, I got
> > the library to import all my folders, this morning
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -Mac-
> >
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