[webproducers] Re: thnx!


Belatedly adding my thanks to Morry for organizing the event and
continuing to take care of this list!  It was good to see some faces I
knew and to meet new people.

I also wanted to acknowledge Eric for his "web-producerly" summary, which
I found very useful.

Finally, since he didn't mention it himself, I wanted to broadcast Michael
Pinto's suggestion for some future meeting:  that we share our _worst_ web
producing experiences!  Brilliant idea, IMO.

Regards all and I look forward to our next meeting whenever/wherever.

Karen H.



On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Eric Berg wrote:

>
> Yes, thanks again, Morry!!  Great seeing you "old" Webproducers, and meeting a
> few new ones.  I really enjoyed last night.  It's a good thing you've done,
> Morry.
>
> Among the topics of conversation last night were the tragedy of 9/11 and the
> aftermath in each of our lives.  Some more significant than others, but beyond
> the difficulties that have come due to personal and civic loss, the economy
> sucks!  I think that falls under adding insult to injury.
>
> Also, I discussed QA issues with Dennis who's the Technical Director from a
> small web shop in town and Mary Ann (sp?).  We discussed the "how it should be
> done" versus "how it is done" and the forces that divide the two, such as
> budget, time, client ignorance -- which is often aggravated by poor client
> relations.  We all agreed that QA should be considered and planned for early 
> in
> the project.  It's often an afterthought, and as such not budgeted for, or 
> even
> attempted after launch....too little too late, usually.
>
> We talked about setting up a test environment using VMWare
> <URL:http://www.vmware.com> to allow you to have more than one browser version
> on the same machine.
>
> We also talked about some of the bug and issue tracking tools out there that
> help you keep track of what needs to be done on your projects, and to whom 
> they
> are assigned.  There are some good ones out there such as Bugzilla, GNATS, and
> Jitterbug among others.  I've got some info on my web page at
> http://nylug.org/~eberg; look for the "Bug Tracking" link at the bottom of the
> left nav.
>
> James Pinto and I spoke about the business climate, and how everybody here in
> NYC seems to be seriously holding back on making any commitments.  At the same
> time, eating, dressing, all that normal stuff still goes on, so it seems to
> follow that we'll see some pickup in web business as things progress.  We're
> all hoping.
>
> The place was nice, though the music a little loud for those more soft-spoken
> among us.  All in all, it was a terrific networking event, though Lori, our
> waitress would probably have liked for us to hoist quite a few more
> drinks....maybe next time.
>
> Thanks again, Morry!  BTW, what do you think about a December get together?
>
> -Eric.
>
> james scola: [Friday 2-November]:
>
> >
> > hey Morry,
> >
> > I just wanted to say it was a pleasure meeting you and
> > all the others last night! I am sorry I had to leave
> > early..but I look forward to the next meeting.
> >
> > I will contact SVA and see what I can do to broaden
> > our exposure..if you need anything else please let me
> > know I would be happy to lend a helping hand!
> >
> > James
> > p.s. If you get a chance check out "FROST"..the
> > Italian restaurant..your in Greenpoint and its on
> > Frost street. It's not much to look @ it but the
> > chicken francaise is worth bearing the 1960's decorum.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > =====
> > James N Scola
> >
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