[webproducers] Re: request for proposal

It's possible to build Drupal templates that are completely custom, but it's
harder to work around the built in navigation et all, there are a bunch of
templates, but Drupal doesn't have a user base that is very design-oriented
(like MT and EE which is picking up steam). Drupal is a "do all tool", it
doesn't look to specialise, so you have to be creative and really put your
nose to the grind stone to make it work for you. In that way it's similar to
ZenCart, or OScommerce, they can do anything you will imagine but that also
makes it inherently complex.
EE is a system with a solid user management, templating and publishing
system which has plugins that handle very specific tasks and make them very
easy for you. For me the system covers 95% of what I want to do on most
sites (again with the exception of heavy duty ecommerce.)
To sum it up, with EE including the hooks or creating custom fileds (that
are automatically set up in the database) is so simple that I start with
design and XHTML first and don't worry about implementation, templates or
backend. I am not a Drupal pro and when I deal with it I use the standard
templates and try to work inside of them because I am scared.

Your milage may very, for me it was an easy choice.

Rant over.

FF







On 2/28/08, Andrew Boardman <boardman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Great thread. Comment below:
>
>
> >> I asked a client who is currently using Drupal how she felt about it
> >> and
> >> she was pretty negative. She felt it was clunky and unreliable
> >> compared
> >> to what she used in the past (which was a custom CMS) and she was
> >> dependent on IT when she had a problem, something you're usually what
> >> you're trying to avoid with a CMS.
> >
> > I can second that.
> >
> > Drupal is OK with you stick to its' template structure, but it's not
> > as easy to create a flexible system that doesn't exactly follow suit.
> > I have worked on three projects where clients were migrating away from
> > drupal.
> >
> > Personally, I like expression engine. It's like a multi-blog wordpress
> > engine (I find it easier to set up and deploy than WP), it can create
> > static pages, has a great build in forum, mailing list manager, user
> > rights and account administration, a gallery function and a wiki. It's
> > based on PHP and does have a plugin architecture and low level paypal
> > payment system, if you are looking for a payment system I wouldn't
> > recommend it (bakesale is great in combination though.) Note that all
> > of these features are part of the plugin architecture, so if you don't
> > need them you don't activate them and the application stays lean.
>
>
> Florian, we're thinking of transitioning from MT to EE, which is just
> getting rave reviews from designers and developers. It's impressive.
> Two questions:
>
> * We have a project for which we're considering Drupal, in part
> because it allows the administrator to easily create and place pages
> and builds new navigation. MT can't currently do this easily but can EE?
>
> * Related to your comment above, do you need to absolutely stick to
> Drupal's template structure? Is there really no good way of building
> pages yourself and integrating the hooks? If so, is there currently a
> lack of good templates out there?
>
>
> Andrew.
>
>
>
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