[webproducers] Re: cost to create a website?

what I don't get is if you're asking this of morry .. or if you've seen this
on another list? 

it's called a digest mode, it's something a member can choose to use
this isn't a very high bandwidth list either

at NYPHP there's a team that are currently programming a feature similar to
this (automatic) it's called CLEW 

so feel free to check out the specs for the project see our homepage for
more info
http://www.nyphp.org/

it will be a very easy system to use.. but for now doing something like that
would be asking too much of our faithful listmin. I run a list that does
over 200 emails a day, with a low number of members. I would never cater the
idea to do this kind of work for that list

I'd tell em that its very high bandwidth and they should either go digest or
log off.... it's a politics list. 

if this is information for you to get less email - believe me
I feel your pain.. I get 1000 emails avg in the course of one day
 but most are my choice, I'm a server administrator with a crazy idea of
getting a lot bigger than I am now

here's my advice to all on mailing lists which are setup as
newsgroups/bBS's/etc.... 

make sure you know how many emails come through in the course of one day
find out a little about the list before joining (if there are online
archives available read a few)

otherwise .. pick and sort
I've gotten some priceless answers and information on this list and the
WWWAC list and even the politics list which have now been  hosting since
january 2003. It's a communitty thing and like others on here have answered
with the list have said, this list wouldn't exist if that were the layout.
it'd problly not even exist.

so that's my 2 cents to the infinite power
thanks everyone

and props to morry, it's a lot of work but where'd we be if not for the
lists we run :-D

Dan Horning - Music, Technology & Photography 
 http://www.dsoundmn.com/ 
 Technical Systems Administration 
 1-866-284-3150 (Office/Home)
-----Original Message-----
From: webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Catherine Sweeney
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 1:18 PM
To: webproducers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [webproducers] Re: cost to create a website?

Morry:
 
When a member of the group asks a question of the group, is there any way
that respondents can limit their response to the specific individual who
asked the question vs. copying the entire list?  
 
I'm sure I'm not alone in that when I am not interested in the responses,
it's annoying to have to go through my inbox and delete unsolicited mail.
Perhaps respondents can send their replies to the list administrator who
will capture and post all replies in one email so that those who are
interested, including the person who asked the question, can open one email
and be done with it?
 
Thanks,
 
Catherine


morry <morry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:This is an interesting point. I have
worked with clients who thought that
design was just about cosmetics and that they really didn't matter that
much. Of course this perception is often I see the need for premature
redesigns.

Good design is more than a pretty face and isn't about just picking colors.
Often times just having something up can do more harm than good. Be it
online or off good design helps a client to get their message through but
also can help get and retain clients. This reminds me of the study done on
retail merchandising and customer shopping habits. A retailer might argue
that they don't need fancy over priced merchandisers and designers to decide
where products should go and how they are displayed but that's short sighted
and can cost them business. Good designers know that shoppers tend to walk
in and go to the right immediately and we also know from retail observations
that a majority of female shoppers will move away from a display and even
leave a store if they get bumped into by other shoppers or other displays
are too close.

We can certainly see the argument for just putting the stock out there if
the shopping area isn't "designed" appropriately and isn't appealing on many
levels then you risk losing business (if we're talking commercial).

Good design is rhetoric and is part of an overall strategic plan to be sure
your goal is reached. The old form vs. function argument has become more and
more blurred over the years. In his new book, Donald Normal backtracks on
his positing in a previous book in light of research proving what good
designers have been saying all along- "pretty things work better."

4) i'm not sure you need to bring "big guns" of a professional
design firm to this project for a 20 page corporate site UNLESS
the company is really serious about its image and content. a lot
of companies don't care and as long as the final product isn't
horrid, they'll be happy with having something up rather than a
professionally designed masterpiece.




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