interesting. the term "producer" has been ambiguous since 1997 or so. i've held that title since but did 99% of what you outlined below. of the points you mentioned, having total responsibility for a given project and the team's actions *but* not being able to burn people for screwing around or institute change has and continues to be one of the most frustrating aspects of the role. --- Michael James Pinto <michaeljamespinto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > --- Katherine Gray <kat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > As we're hiring new producers and developing our training > methodology, one of our advisors has > > asked us to define what a good producer/project manager > looks like. What are the qualities and > > skills you all think define a good producer? > > I'll start: > > I think producer seems to be a code word for a > "manager who has the risks but not the power to > make change". I blame books like the "Mythical > Man Month" for the view of managers being equal > to programmers, or even in supportng roles. This > point of view played a direct role in many failed > dot.bomb projects. > > Here is my post dot.bomb qualifications: > > 1. The ability to identify slackers and fire them. > 2. The ability to smell BS a mile away. > 3. Revolts against "not invented here". > 4. If managing programmers, should have programmed > in the past. > 5. Attention to detail. > 6. Can write worth a damn. > 7. Can say "NO" but not piss off. > 8. Knows how to research. > 9. Knows how to say "I don't know the answer to that, > but I'll find out." > 10. Won't build a Ferrari when you need a Honda Civic. > 11. Can explain the technical in plain English > sans buzz words but not be patronizing. > 12. Can track a project without a "management program". > 13. Can take good notes. > 14. Proactively organizes, but not goldbricking. > 15. Calls the client before the client calls them. > 16. Understands the need for QA. > 17. Understands "critical path". > 18. Doesn't procrastinate. > 19. Stops mission creep. > 20. Get it in writing, put it in writing. > > I submit the above is not a "producer" but is a > classic description of a manager. I will never hire > a "web producer" or create a job with that description. > Like the job title "webmaster" what web producers did > will evolve into different roles. > > > > > > > ===== > Michael James Pinto | http://www.vm.com | http://www.anime.com > > > Upgrade to Clark: http://www.clark04.com | > http://www.nyforclark.com > > Join my list on the arts & technology: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EIA_list > __________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe send a blank message with unsubscribe in the > subject to webproducers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To access our webform to subscribe, unsubscribe, and manage > your subscription (digest and vacation) visit > www.WebProducers.org. > > The WPO list is a public discussion forum with a public > archive at www.WebProducers.org. Be sure to trim your posts > and delete personal information such as telephone numbers if > you do not want them as part of the archive. > ===== -------------------------------------------- --------- www.arifeldman.com --------- -------------------------------------------- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe send a blank message with unsubscribe in the subject to webproducers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To access our webform to subscribe, unsubscribe, and manage your subscription (digest and vacation) visit www.WebProducers.org. The WPO list is a public discussion forum with a public archive at www.WebProducers.org. Be sure to trim your posts and delete personal information such as telephone numbers if you do not want them as part of the archive.