[webproducers] Re: What do you think?
- From: "Katherine Gray" <kat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <webproducers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:57:14 -0700
Not that it makes a huge difference, but I think he was probably an *employee*
of Rapidigm, not a sub, based on how they operate. I agree it would be better
if he represented the work as work done while he was employed by Rapidigm, but
unless there is some issue with confidentiality that Rapidigm made with that
particular client I don't think Rapidigm or HSN has any right to tell people
they can't put work they've done in their portfolios.
Obviously, since I'm a former Rapidigm employee myself, this is hitting a
nerve. I saw them lay off designers and front-end developers and not give them
any time to gather assets for their portfolio so they could show what they'd
been doing for the past 2 years of their lives. There was nothing in our
employment contracts that precluded us from showing work we'd done. But I guess
that's not really the point here, just why I'm willing to give the guy the
benefit of the doubt.
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael James Pinto
To: webproducers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 3:40 PM
Subject: [webproducers] Re: What do you think?
--- Michael Randazzo <randazzm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> For those of you that have small businesses or work independently how do
> you handle this?
> http://www.angrycoder.com/blog/entries/20030507.html
It was dishonest of him to not list Rapidigm as his primary client, so
HSN is in the right. Had he listed something like "Rapidigm: Working with
their client HSN" that would be another thing. I also wonder of if he checked
his contract with Rapidigm to make sure that what he did was cool in the
first place, I get the feeling that it wasn't (but hard to tell unless we
look at his contract).
He was a sub-contractor in anycase so he is bound by the agreement that
Rapidigm had with HSN. On some of my contracts my clients are very specific
on how they are credited - and I've had problems in the past with freelancers
who worked for me having claimed through poor wording that they worked
directly for my client.
If I were Rapidigm I would make it a point never to work with this guy again
if he gave my client any objections. In fact knowing what I know now about
Jonathan Goodyear I wouldn't let him anyplace near my valued clients!
Keep in mind that Jonathan Goodyear is representing himself as a company,
and not as an individual. So it might have been different if he did this
as part of a resume, but even in that context he should make it clear that
he was on contract and not an employee.
Michael
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