[webproducers] Re: Rates/Salary/Compensation

Hi Phillip, Hi Stuart, Hi James, and everyone,

Thank you for some good thoughts on this. I contact this client  
directly when they posted through my school. You're right, it was my  
mistake for not sign-up a contract with them in the first place; I  
certainly learnt this lesson in a very hard way! However, I already  
send them PSD files for three times since November, but they kept  
complain that they couldn't open my files with layers. After I read  
Stuart's email, I believe that maybe the case here...(Backward  
compatible issue).

These days I can't decide if I should bring my case to legal justice.  
Maybe this is silly, but I consider since I just beginning in this  
field, if going to court will leave any backfire for my future  
career. But on the other hand, this organization's goal is to make  
some citywide street parade and raise public awareness on certain  
banned activity, and they'll make huge attention with news media this  
spring. (Sorry I cannot be more specific who they are). So even  
though they act as none-profit organization, but all the logo and  
graphics I made will be use to advertise their organization and their  
events.

James has great suggestions in his email (Thank you James!). I  
certainly will bring this case to GAG and my counselor and see if  
they can help me. I'll keep you update.

Many Thanks for Your Thoughts and Helps.
Grace

On Jan 22, 2007, at 12:38 PM, Phillip Madanire wrote:

> Hi Grace
> If the company were going to be successful like Nike I will
> definitely go to court. Regardless you have to weigh how much you
> will get from it. One way is to say I have learnt a lesson let me
> move on. I do not do that though.
>
> I would not give them the PSDs files unless they pay me the whole
> amount first and make sure the check is cleared. You have to act
> professional(in other words act tough because it is business - no one
> works for free) and they will not get away with it.
>
> Do not feel insulted because it is you who did not do it
> professionally(contract thing). Recognize the mistake and embrace
> what you have learnt. You will come across it very frequently if you
> do not do contracts.
>
> Phillip
>
> On Jan 22, 2007, at 11:13 AM, Grace Yeh wrote:
>
>> Hi Phillip and everyone,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, I have no contract with them,
>> as I regret it now that I should. I got this job through my school's
>> job listing, and it posted as a freelance project for a new formed
>> none-profit organization, not an unpaid internship.
>>
>> Now the project is already done for two month, but they also use my
>> graphic/logo design for the last two month without paying me (as they
>> promise once they fund raised some money they'll pay me), but since
>> November they keep bothering me about sending them the original PSD
>> files, as one of their designers claimed that I have sent them the
>> "flatten" ones, but in fact all the PSD files I sent are multi-
>> layered, huge 40-60 MB originals. I suspect the only reason they
>> encounter this problem is because they don't know how to use PSD
>> files when layers are grouped inside folders in the layer palette.
>> Now after I have sent them same files three times, plus one long
>> email explained 'how to' use Photoshop layers, they still nag me
>> about sending them PSDs with 'unlocked' layers, and still not mention
>> about paying me. I just give them an invoice three days ago, and now
>> I have feelings that they just going to ignore it.
>>
>> I really feel this is a total insult and rip-off to someone who just
>> start in the professional field. Is there still anything I can do to
>> protect myself? Do I really have to bring them to court?
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>> Grace
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2007, at 1:15 PM, Phillip Madanire wrote:
>>
>>> Did you have a thorough contract? If so you can take them to court.
>>> p
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 21, 2007, at 1:09 PM, Grace Yeh wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I also have the same problem for this kind of information. Is
>>>> there a
>>>> different rates for just creating graphics and logo for a website?
>>>> How much per hour/per project to charge a client?
>>>>
>>>> Also, is there any information to help for freelancer if a  
>>>> client is
>>>> unwilling to paid a two month project? (They've already used my
>>>> graphic on their site for last two month!)
>>>> Thanks for all your help.
>>>>
>>>>  From NYC,
>>>> Grace
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 21, 2007, at 12:17 PM, Phillip Madanire wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you be kind to let me know the current rates/salary/
>>>>> compensation we are charging the clients. I am lost in this crazy
>>>>> good market. You can say the rates hourly, weekly, monthly, salary
>>>>> wise, project wise or any other kind.
>>>>>
>>>>> With much appreciation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Phillip
>>>>>
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