[webproducers] Re: Not-for-Profit work

This may seem curmudgeonly, but I am so tired of non-profits that have budgeted 
funds to pay themselves salaries and have offices, etc. (shall remain 
nameless), but never the vendors.   Combine that with the
proliferation of all kinds of non-profits with those great big ones that have 
been in the news for their greedy practices (Red Cross, United Way).  Oh, let's 
not forget the for profit businesses masquerading as
non-profits (Palotta Teamworks and all the events they produce).  And, then 
there are those inscrutable, personal mission non-profits to fund someone to 
climb Mt. Everst or sail around the world.  And, I become
very cynical.  This does not mean that I haven't negotiated free services for 
causes for which I may have a particular soft spot (Architects for Humanity, 
Creative Time) or see where the non-profit is actually
offering something in return (WIIFM is a basic rule of business that NEVER 
changes).

In other words, these are all things to bear in mind when recruiting services 
from vendors.  Most non-profits will ask without going through the same steps 
to close a sale or secure a big donation.  You have to
put together a presentation with all the facts, benefits, features, etc.  Show 
them exactly how much they'll be able to claim as a write-off or how you're 
going to build their public profile as a donor.

As non-profits proliferate, they've got to be able to justify their status and 
their worth to society and where the money is going to go.  As much as I like 
my friend, I'm not going to subsidize his friend's
sail around the world while I busting my ass 6-7 days a week working to make a 
living here in New York.  That is unless they're willing to finance my 
round-the-world bike trip!

LKSugarman

Richard Whitney wrote:

> 1)  Basically, once you have been hired to do this, your work is their
> property.  If you worry about them taking your work and running w/ it w/out
> paying you, invoice them for project phases, rather than the whole
> project.  In other words, bill them for 1/2 your estimate on completion of
> the project plan, and the rest during other phases.  They will be more
> inclined to keep you on board if they have paid you for the plan and them 
> some.
>
> 2)  You are not out of line.  I think it might be hard, but there's no harm
> in asking.  I don't have much experience w/ this.
>
> Good luck
> Rick Whitney
> http://www.rickwhitney.com
>
> At 09:58 AM 5/6/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >Hi everyone,
> >
> >I have recently taken on the task of being a PM for a not-for-profit
> >organization where they are launching a fairly extensive project promoting
> >their vision. My question is two-fold:
> >
> >1- The project plan that I develop, should I put some sort of disclaimer on
> >there to prevent duplication and distribution of it without my consent? With
> >the nature of the project, is this plan considered my property or the
> >property of the organization? Any thoughts on how to go about this?
> >
> >2- We need to find a web server provider and most likely an outfit that will
> >do the updates and coding (or have the use of their in-house tools) as the
> >project progresses. There's a definite end to the project. I've never worked
> >with a non profit group before, so I'm not sure what the boundaries are in
> >dealing with approaching businesses where their services are needed. We
> >don't have the budget to pay them full price. Am I out of line in asking for
> >freebee's or discounts in this arena? Does anyone else have experience in
> >this that could give me some helpful hints?
> >
> >Just not sure where or how to begin...
> >Susan
> >
> >
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