[webproducers] Re: Facebook

I wonder how geography relates to all this facebook v/s myspace deal..
According to Alexa.com, about 33% of facebook users are US based compared
with over 47% for myspace..
prayag




On 7/16/07, sharongreenfield@xxxxxxxxx <sharongreenfield@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Oho!
> As someone who is also in Social Sciences, and like danah a lot (I've
> read her college thesis), I had to disagree with her over this. I've
> told her, she needs to be careful here. There is no class division,
> there is only packets.
>
> Think about how many soldiers there are. And then think about how
> many soldiers are in the field that could be stressed and want to
> communicate with their families. Now think of the number of officers
> there are. And their stress level management due to experience and time.
> Now tell me, if it really is split into the segregated camps per the
> applications, *why* do you think the military banned one but not the
> other?
>
> PACKET LOAD!  Many many many packets of data. They were being
> inundated, so they banned the biggest problem right in front  of
> them. Does this solve the issue for them? Probably not, but thats
> beside the point.
>
> I'm not even going to go into the families on the other side - do you
> think Mrs. Soldier would better understand the MySpace interface or
> the FaceBook one? This is a whole different topic. We can make
> guesses, but really a research study would have to be set up to
> really know.
>
> So, again, I like danah, but she is being a tad irresponsible for
> blaming segregation for something as simple and packet load.
>
> On Jul 16, 2007, at 10:53 AM, mark krawczuk wrote:
>
> >
> > One thing that might be driving some of the most current round of
> > FaceBook
> > signups is this blog entry (June 24, 2007 by danah boyd) that made its
> > rounds across the blogosphere:
> >
> > Viewing American class divisions through Facebook and MySpace
> > http://www.danah.org/papers/essays/ClassDivisions.html
> >
> > In sum, she says deciding on one or the other is based on class
> > divisions.
> >
> > The lightning rod line is:
> >
> > "A month ago, the military banned MySpace but not Facebook. This was a
> > very interesting move because the division in the military reflects
> > the
> > division in high schools. Soldiers are on MySpace; officers are on
> > Facebook."
> >
> > The whole essay is worth a look, especially for the great
> > background on
> > the services.
> >
> > - Mark
> >
> >
> > Andrea Hardison wrote:
> >> This is what I like about Myspace. I think FB is more
> >> for personal networks (even though myspace is too) but
> >> people definitely don't use FB for what you're
> >> describing below.
> >>
> >> I think Myspace is just better anyway.
> >>
> >>
> >> --- marj kleinman <marjk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Another thing that's important to point out is that
> >>> there's a certain
> >>> marketing trend that's specific to MS--filmmakers
> >>> and musicians are still
> >>> creating MS pages for their films and music albums.
> >>> Maybe they're starting
> >>> to do this with FB, but I know that people make a MS
> >>> page for films when
> >>> they don't want to make a full Website and they can
> >>> decorate and design them
> >>> in a way that they probably can't yet on FB.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone else know anything about this with
> >>> regard to FB?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 7/16/07 10:57 AM, "Andrea Hardison"
> >>> <andreahardison@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks for forwarding this article along.
> >>>>
> >>>> I too have noticed that I've received a lot more
> >>>> Facebook requests, etc. in the past 2 weeks than
> >>> ever.
> >>>> I was just talking about this with a couple of
> >>> friends
> >>>> of mine last week. I think the new API setup from
> >>>> Facebook is a good look.
> >>>>
> >>>> But personally, what is the difference between
> >>>> FaceBook and MySpace? They are all the same, yet
> >>>> another networking site launches and continues to
> >>>> grow, etc. I guess people just love the whole
> >>> social
> >>>> networking idea.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think FaceBook should have stayed within its
> >>> niche
> >>>> and focused on the college crowd. Why expand and
> >>>> become another MySpace??
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, sites like FaceBook and MySpace are really
> >>> good
> >>>> and assisting with any type of viral marketing
> >>>> campaigns you have.
> >>>>
> >>>> My .02
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --- David Tomere <dtomere@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Here's a link to an article today about Facebook.
> >>>>> It's increased
> >>>>> membership by 20% since May (to 30 mil). The
> >>> point
> >>>>> of the article is
> >>>>> that Facebook has a privacy advantage over, say,
> >>>>> MySpace:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070715/tc_nm/
> >> facebook_privacy_dc_1;_ylt=AuGSfcXHY
> >>>> HPihNk7u0axT_nEHX0V
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But what am I doing on Facebook? I'm over 40 and
> >>>>> sending out Zombie
> >>>>> bites to build a zombie army.  But with the right
> >>>>> workgroup apps, FB
> >>>>> could end up being what Linked-In wants to be.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _d
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At 04:51 PM 07/15/2007, you wrote:
> >>>>>> I guess I am in the 20 somethings category, and
> >>> an
> >>>>> AVID user of
> >>>>>> Facebook (not so much MySpace) so this
> >>> conversation
> >>>>> is very
> >>>>>> interesting because I didn't think the FB
> >>>>> phenomenon would seem so
> >>>>>> strange to anyone.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The reason it has taken off is because it
> >>> started
> >>>>> as a service to keep
> >>>>>> in touch with college friends (people who went
> >>> to
> >>>>> school in the US).
> >>>>>> So people felt more of a connection. Recently
> >>> they
> >>>>> started developing
> >>>>>> open source apps to add to facebook. Most of
> >>> them
> >>>>> are quite useless,
> >>>>>> to be honest.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have personally used it for marketing as well
> >>> and
> >>>>> it wroks great!
> >>>>>> It's not shady like MySpace. You have the
> >>> leverage
> >>>>> for editing privacy
> >>>>>> settings for every single little item displayed.
> >>>>> It's great!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 15/07/07, marj kleinman <marjk@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> WOM (word of mouth) among the 20
> >>>>> somethings...the other ones are Tagged and
> >>>>>>> Twitter. There are far too many. Flickr is also
> >>>>> seen as a social networking
> >>>>>>> site as is Meet Up and OKCupid.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 7/15/07 3:09 PM,
> >>> "sharongreenfield@xxxxxxxxx"
> >>>>>>> <sharongreenfield@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Much as I have a FaceBook account that I
> >>>>> rarely use, as I just don't
> >>>>>>>> have the energy and time, I still want to pay
> >>>>> attention to this.
> >>>>>>>> This seems to be a great way to watch how to
> >>>>> market; are they doing
> >>>>>>>> all of this virally? Did they pick out a
> >>>>> couple hundred or so top
> >>>>>>>> FB'ers and pay em to go wild? Did they give
> >>>>> top developers a personal
> >>>>>>>> schmooze-n-look at the API kind of party? I
> >>>>> really agree FB seems to
> >>>>>>>> be reaching a critical mass, but HOW did it
> >>>>> happen, is of interest to
> >>>>>>>> me.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2007, at 1:56 PM, marj kleinman
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Already happening. Apparently, when teens
> >>>>> younger sisters started
> >>>>>>>>> joining
> >>>>>>>>> MS, they started joining FB. Also, it's a
> >>>>> much better application/
> >>>>>>>>> site. Much
> >>>>>>>>> more interactivity/better design.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 7/14/07 4:18 PM, "Steven Hubert"
> >>>>> <steven.hubert@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I totally agree with you about facebook. I
> >>>>> have been getting
> >>>>>>>>>> multiple friend
> >>>>>>>>>> requests every week for the last few weeks.
> >>>>> Previously to that I
> >>>>>>>>>> very rarely
> >>>>>>>>>> got invites. Maybe opening up the API really
> >>>>> made a difference and
> >>>>>>>>>> people
> >>>>>>>>>> are joining up. Personally I can't stand
> >>>>> facebook. You need to
> >>>>>>>>>> have ALOT of
> >>>>>>>>>> free time to keep up to date with that.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Steve
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 7/14/07, David Tomere
> >>>>> <dtomere@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone else noticed that Facebook seems
> >>>>> to be reaching critical
> >>>>>>>>>>> mass?  I
> >>>>>>>>>>> got three Facebook invitations this week
> >>>>> from unconnected
> >>>>>>>>>>> friends, and my
> >>>>>>>>>>> first last week.  Is Facebook going to be
> >>>>> the new MySpace? It
> >>>>>>>>>>> seems to be
> >>>>>>>>>>> trying to shake off its teenybopper
> >>>>> origins.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> PS - Anyone going to be in Dusseldorf first
> >>>>> 2 weeks in Aug?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
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