[wdmaudiodev] Re: Can I identify my audio endpoint?

So what's the difference between PKEY_SYSFX_UiClsid (used in the FX property store) and PKEY_AudioEndpoint_Ext_UiClsid (used in the endpoint property store)?

Mike

Mitchell Rundle wrote:
Jeff, it sounds like you have it.

Michael, in your case only the speakers propertystore is populated because of 
this entry:

        HKR,"EP\\0",%PKEY_AudioEndpoint_Association%,,%KSNODETYPE_SPEAKER%

If you want all endpoints populated, then change that line to

        HKR,"EP\\0",%PKEY_AudioEndpoint_Association%,,%KSNODETYPE_ANY%

On the other hand, let's say you want to add a different endpoint propertypage 
extension for each of the endpoints (speakers, headphones, spdif).  In this 
case, (as Jeff alluded to) do something like

        HKR,"EP\\0",%PKEY_AudioEndpoint_Association%,,%KSNODETYPE_SPEAKER%
        
HKR,"EP\\0",%PKEY_AudioEndpoint_Ext_UiClsid%,,%AUDIOENDPOINT_EXT_UI_CLSID_FORSPEAKERS%

        HKR,"EP\\1",%PKEY_AudioEndpoint_Association%,,%KSNODETYPE_HEADPHONES%
        
HKR,"EP\\1",%PKEY_AudioEndpoint_Ext_UiClsid%,,%AUDIOENDPOINT_EXT_UI_CLSID_FORHEADPHONES%

        
HKR,"EP\\2",%PKEY_AudioEndpoint_Association%,,%KSNODETYPE_SPDIF_INTERFACE%
        
HKR,"EP\\2",%PKEY_AudioEndpoint_Ext_UiClsid%,,%AUDIOENDPOINT_EXT_UI_CLSID_FORSPDIF%

I realize this is all a bit cludgey...  Basically, you are creating transient groups of registry properties 
that will be used by something that doesn't exist at device setup time, namely the audio endpoints.  When the 
endpoints are "created", the AudioEndpointBuilder service looks for these "EP\n" and 
"FX\n" entries, correlates with the pin category and if there's a match copies the properties into 
the new endpoint and fx propertystores en masse.

Let me know if this is still unclear.  I'll add to the list of things that 
needs more documentation and/or utilities.

Regards,
Mitch Rundle
Microsoft Corporation

-----Original Message-----
From: wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Pages
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:05 PM
To: wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [wdmaudiodev] Re: Can I identify my audio endpoint?

Hi Mike,

I don't know whether what I've done is the right thing or not (this stuff
doesn't seem to be documented anywhere yet apart from in the SysFx example),
but I have multiple endpoints that I needed to set the default sampling rate
and bit depth on, so in the [OEMSettingsOverride.AddReg] section I just
referred to the endpoints as EP\\0, EP\\1, EP\\2, etc. and it seemed to
work.

Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael R. Preston" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 8:45 AM
Subject: [wdmaudiodev] Re: Can I identify my audio endpoint?



Frank, see my questions below.  I want to answer Ally's question first,
then I have a question for you...

In the INF file that came with the Swap APO sample code, there are
examples of how to put values into both the FX property store, and the
endpoint property store.  Entries to go into the FX property store get a
label of "FX\\0", and entries to go into the endpoint property store get a
label of "EP\\0".  The following is taken from the aforementioned INF
file:

;;
;; All FX\\0 entries in the same grouping
;;
[SysFx.AddReg]
HKR,"FX\\0",%PKEY_DisplayName%,,%SYSFX_FriendlyName%
HKR,"FX\\0",%PKEY_SYSFX_PreMixClsid%,,%SYSFX_PREMIX_CLSID%
HKR,"FX\\0",%PKEY_SYSFX_PostMixClsid%,,%SYSFX_POSTMIX_CLSID%
HKR,"FX\\0",%PKEY_SYSFX_UiClsid%,,%SYSFX_UI_CLSID%
HKR,"FX\\0",%PKEY_SYSFX_Association%,,%KSNODETYPE_ANY%

;;
;; All EP\\0 entries in the same grouping
;;
;; Set default format to 48kHz, 16-bit, Stereo
;; Add endpoint extension property page
;;
[OEMSettingsOverride.AddReg]
HKR,"EP\\0",%PKEY_AudioEndpoint_Association%,,%KSNODETYPE_SPEAKER%
HKR,"EP\\0",%PKEY_AudioEngine_OEMFormat%,%REG_BINARY%,41,00,8C,70,28,00,00,00,FE,FF,02,00,80,BB,00,00,00,EE,02,00,04,00,10,00,16,00,10,00,03,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,00,00,10,00,80,00,00,AA,00,38,9B,71
HKR,"EP\\0",%PKEY_AudioEndpoint_Ext_UiClsid%,,%AUDIOENDPOINT_EXT_UI_CLSID%


The reason I'm bringing this up, is that I think there may be a problem with this mechanism. I'm running on a system with more than one playback endpoint (Speakers, Headphones, and S/PDIF). I can see entries destined for the FX property store get populated for all endpoints. However, entries destined for the endpoint property store only seem to get populated for the first (default) endpoint. Frank, is this a known problem? Any comments or suggestions?

Thanks,
Mike

Alexandra Schoepel (Ally) wrote:

Hi Frank,
Regarding setting a special property to help us locate our endpoint: as
far as I can tell, the sysfx example adds properties to the FX PROPERTIES
key in the registry, but not the 'standard' one, e.g.
..\MMDevices\Audio\Render\{DS GUID}\Properties\
Am I missing something, or does the example only demonstrate adding
properties for the effects?  It looks to me the only way to find the
endpoint associated with an audio driver is by the device
name/description from the inf.
Thanks,
Ally

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*From:* wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Frank Yerrace
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:53 PM
*To:* wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [wdmaudiodev] Re: Can I identifying my audio endpoint?

I'm sorry I misled you with my previous response. A colleague reminded me
that PKEY_Endpoint_KsComponentId is not generally available in the
endpoint property stores. Another alternative- similar in concept- is for
your device INF to indirectly populate the endpoint property stores with
your own custom properties. The SYSFX sample demonstrates this. (Sorry I
don't have a pointer to the SYSFX sample or documentation at my
fingertips. I believe it's been referenced in other messages to this
mailing list.) Then your app can search for an endpoint that has your
custom properties in its property store.

Frank Yerrace

Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

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*From:* wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Alexandra
Schoepel (Ally)
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 17, 2006 4:12 PM
*To:* wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [wdmaudiodev] Re: Can I identifying my audio endpoint?

Yes it does.  Okay, very cool.  Is this key defined in a standard header
or is there a section of documentation describing how the KSCOMPONENTID
is encapsulated in the PROPVARIANT so I don't bother you any more. :)

Thanks again,

Alexandra Schoepel

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*From:* wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Frank Yerrace
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:59 PM
*To:* wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [wdmaudiodev] Re: Can I identifying my audio endpoint?

Does your device have its own audio driver? One alternative is to read
PKEY_Endpoint_KsComponentId from the endpoint property store. This
returns a KSCOMPONENTID structure. However, for this endpoint property to
have useful information, the audio driver must support the KS property
KSPROPERTY_GENERAL_COMPONENTID and fill it in with useful information.

Frank Yerrace

Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

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*From:* wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Alexandra
Schoepel (Ally)
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:27 PM
*To:* wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [wdmaudiodev] Can I identifying my audio endpoint?

Hi guys,

What is the most effective way to identify one's own audio endpoint when
using the IMMDeviceEnumerator?  None of the published Audio Endpoint
properties seem to be uniquely tied to the device.  The DirectSound GUID
(PKEY_AudioEndpoint_GUID) seems to be a floating value assigned by the OS
and in no way tied to any information in the inf file of the driver.
Additionally, help on the IMMDevice::GetId function states that the
information it represents is opaque and should not be used to obtain
information about the device.  Any advice?

Thanks,
Alexandra Schoepel


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