[vipaudioaccess] Re: Completely lost MIDi connectivity in X3 Suite

  • From: "Steve Spamer" <stevespamer68@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2016 22:34:23 -0000

Well, if things aren't working like moving up and down the tracks Kevin, something is wrong. The load in Independence is prone to failure, due to other reasons, but these will be addressed when time permits. I need to have a look at this for you, as it sounds really odd. Steve.

-----Original Message----- From: Kevin Gibbs
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 9:44 PM
To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: Completely lost MIDi connectivity in X3 Suite

Steve,
I think there are times when the script does not execute completely. Perhaps, something hangs up and visual result is as I describe. It doesn't always happen. Just like there are times when ALT shift L doesn't always open load dialog can plug-in window

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On Dec 9, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Steve Spamer <stevespamer68@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Kevin, the script is manipulating Samplitude in the way you are experiencing. In the VIP we see a maximized track, showing all of its controls. When up/down arrowing, the script is minimizing and remaximizing to go to the next track. There is a reason and I think you're getting conflicted from what you can see and what you want to be spoken. Samplitude Access is a screenreader solution, so some things that happen on screen may not seem logical or pretty to the eye, but it is supposed to be this way. Steve.

-----Original Message----- From: Kevin Gibbs
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 8:16 PM
To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: Completely lost MIDi connectivity in X3 Suite

Steve,
Before I forget, sometimes out of the blue, I will find myself in a situation where up and down arrows no longer move me up and down tracks. Instead, it will change the situation on the display so that Samplitude changes from occupying the whole screen to occupying a portion of the screen either to the left or to the right. Depending on whether I have Preston up or down arrow button. Eventualy, things will come back around to the point where Samplitude occupies the entire screen again. I think I can correct this by choosing maximize in the menu to the left of the file menu. More on all this when I get back home.

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On Dec 9, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Kevin Gibbs <kevjazz@xxxxxx> wrote:

I'll check when I get back home.

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On Dec 9, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Steve Spamer <stevespamer68@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Kevin, try this for me please.
Insert independence on say track 1.
Then, press alt I to open the track options for that track.
Now tabbing along to the midi section, you should hear what plug is being used, what device is being used and what channel that device is using...and you can change them if you wish.
Does this information in this dialog give you what you need?


-----Original Message----- From: Kevin Gibbs
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 7:08 PM
To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: Completely lost MIDi connectivity in X3 Suite

Steve,
I'm changing it in the Independence plugin Window immediately to the right of Bypass and below the loaded patch.

BTW, CTRL WIN 1 reports the presence of patches more reliably.

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On Dec 9, 2016, at 12:01 PM, Steve Spamer <stevespamer68@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Where are you changing the routing by hand?

-----Original Message----- From: Kevin L Gibbs
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 5:40 PM
To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: Completely lost MIDi connectivity in X3 Suite

Steve,

I”ve chosen simple but the routing still has to be adjusted, “by hand.” No big deal. I can do it. Just important to know.

If you’re around over the weekend, we can discuss it then.

Best,
Kevin

On Dec 9, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Steve Spamer <stevespamer68@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Kevin you shouldn't have to do that. What ever you're looking at, you should be able to have spoken. What midi assignment are you reading?

I recommend using Independence as just 1 track per instance, until the multi instance is understood. When you insert Independence, the routing dialog should open, select "simple" here and enter on OK.

By doing this, whatever track you've put it on will play that sound only. If you're still struglling, we'll take a look over the weekend. steve.

-----Original Message----- From: Kevin L Gibbs
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 4:58 PM
To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: Completely lost MIDi connectivity in X3 Suite

Okay. Problem solved, or at least better understood. On tracks other than 1, the MIDi channel, I’m not sure whether it’s IN or Out, is set to something other than the corresponding expected number. For example, in the case where I wanted to put a guitar on channel 2, the MIDI channel was 8. In the case where I wanted something on track 3, the corresponding MIDi channel was 1. Remember that I’m pretty sure that the strings patch I put on that actually worked was on track 1 and was probably on channel 1. In the drum case, there was no sound that I could find. Although, I later found that this particular drum kit occupied a surprisingly low range of the MIDi keyboard. So, may have missed it. The only way I knew about the bogus MIDi assignment was to look at it with my eyes and manipulate with a mouse by hand.

Anyway, at least I’m getting somewhere.

Kevin
On Dec 8, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Steve Spamer <stevespamer68@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Kevin. To know what is loaded on a track, press control windows 1 - 4. This will tell you what VST, synth etc you have loaded into slot 1, 2, 3 and 4 on the current track. A good tip would be to name the track with the loaded synths name, e.g, "Independence-piano", then you wouldn't have to do that. Pressing any of these keystrokes actually opens that VST.

To look at all FX loaded on a track, go into Jaws mode with F9 and up/down arrow to all loaded effects on that track. Press F9 again to close.
To hear the summary of a track, press control windows enter. This will speak the status of all controls and the name of any selected object.

When you insert Independence on a track and the plug opens, you can be in 1 of 2 views...the plugin view or the parameter view.
The plugin view is the native UI, meaning the interface for the actual VST.
When you are in the parameter view, this is a list of any accessible parameters that loaded VST offers.

Now in order to load instruments in Independence, when the plug has opened, you need to be in the plugin view, you do this by pressing alt+l and entering on "plugin". Alternatively, do the same to switch to the parameter view.
At this point, the HSC set should load and you should be able to press alt+shift+L to open a menu. In this menu you can arrow down to all of Independence's categories to choose an instrument.

After entering on one, it should load and you should be able to play it. If, for example you had chosen pianos, then you can press control dash and control equals to move to the next and previous piano in that category.
if you want to load another instrument from another category, then you must repeat the alt+shift+L keystroke and choose another instrument. HTH Steve.


-----Original Message----- From: Kevin L Gibbs
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 9:40 PM
To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: Completely lost MIDi connectivity in X3 Suite

JPR,

Following up on MIDI IN stuff, I seem to be able to record Ivory and Magix instruments other than Independence just fine. I simply can’t seem to get Independence to instantiate correctly. Which brings me to a question I have asked before. CTRL Windows M is supposed to give you the overview of a track’s status. But this command doesn’t tell you whether there is a VST instantiated on a given track. What command tells you that. Also, Assuming you choose Independence and bring up the Plugin window,, at least I think that’s it, what is the command to get you to the load menu. Currently, I do this by hand because, even when I choose an instrument from the Effects menu, I get to this plugin menu that requires me to choose a patch again and I can only do that by manipulating the mouse by hand with vision. That’s clearly wrong.

On Dec 8, 2016, at 3:17 PM, Kevin L Gibbs <kevjazz@xxxxxx> wrote:

JPR,
Checking Alt R twice did solve the problem for tracks that don’t have Independence on them. No idea why my default template defaults to Transport as the first option checked by default. I’ll have to screw with that. Still working on getting any sound out of Independence. More later.


On Dec 8, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel <jprykiel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Kevin,

In the VIP Window, choose a MIDI track and press alt are twice, then review all the settings, especially MIDI inputs to see which one is checked. then, press alt am twice and do the same for MIDI outputs if no virtual synth is on the track?

Cheers,

JPR



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Le 08/12/2016 à 21:51, Kevin L Gibbs a écrit :
Following up. I pulled up a project that worked a few days ago and it still works. I can play MIDi and I can make the project play by pressing play on my Transport. So, I have no idea what is wrong with any of my default templates. Still hoping for help.

Kevin

On Dec 8, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Kevin L Gibbs <kevjazz@xxxxxx> wrote:

Guys,

I’ve determined that I've somehow lost MIDi connectivity, I/O in Samplitude Pro X3 Suite. No idea how. As far as I know, I have the right MIDi options checked. If anyone plans to be around TT today, let me know so I can check off other options.

Thanks,
Kevin


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