Hi Stuart Again, Yes I appreciat all that subsidy you mention and trust that MSP's will do what you say! Well done for all your endeavours in that regard. Bear in mind that such are commercial operations and we are a minority! Fair enough say the EU has a ruling about an exttra charge for all folk travelling airwise and noone would mind that I'm sure! Of course I think for phones too and the like for Vips. Yes drop your subsidy but how long will it be before mobile phone companies will take up the slack? Yes we hope for the great awakening from them but for how long more? Vodafone and others are certainly making the effort indeed! Won't be looking for free or subsidy myself but as I wrote earlier if it is there then surely! I think that we all are living in the real world aren't we? Regards, Tony Sweeney ----- Original Message ----- From: Stuart Lawler To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:14 PM Subject: [vip_students] Re: talks question Hi Tony, If you are referring indirectly to the fact that you believe NCBI should continue to subsidise the Talks software then you might keep in mind that we did this for nearly three years. The reason we decided to stop was because we wanted to encourage companies like Vodafone to do exactly what you say, that is, to provide the technology as standard, so that everyone can have equal access. Continuing to subsidise the price of the product would simply not have worked for us. I trust this answers what I've assumed was your indirect question below! Regards, Stuart. -----Original Message----- From: "tony sweeney" <deirton711@xxxxxxxxx> To: <vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:47:27 +0100 Subject: [vip_students] Re: talks question > Also Eleanor! > > I am not a great believer in things from companies free anyway! > > Where subsidy is perhaps to be provided then there are others who > maybe should facilitate such! > > It's a plus when the likes of Vodafone do such but I wouldn't expect it > from them or other such companies! > > Anyway trust that that Is my last mail on this thread! > > Tony > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eleanor Burke > To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 4:30 PM > Subject: [vip_students] Re: talks question > > > Well fair enough Tony but Vodafone are going with the market and > market demand whereas visually impaired users with Talks are a very > small number of the market and they do provide a service to us. > > Eleanor > ----- Original Message ----- > From: tony sweeney > To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 4:18 PM > Subject: [vip_students] Re: talks question > > > Eleanor! > > Not at all criticising Vodafone! > > In fact if you read my email correctly I am actually applauding > them but would like to see more phones included that's all! > > Somebody or company or organisation has to pay for the Talks, > Vodafone in that instance! > > Trust that's clear now! > > Tony Sweeney > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eleanor Burke > To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 4:10 PM > Subject: [vip_students] Re: talks question > > > Tony if I may correct you a little, this has nothing to do with > Vodafone only offering a few phones with Talks. Talks works on a > certain cymbian platform and works best wish phones with tactile > keyboards. However, the Talks developers are doing their best to keep > up with Nokia and other phone manufacturers to provide Talks on touch > screen phones. I think Vodafone are to be commended for providing > Talks free of charge rather than critising them for not providing > sufficient types of phones. > > Eleanor > ----- Original Message ----- > From: tony sweeney > To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 3:38 PM > Subject: [vip_students] Re: talks question > > > Hi Jackie, > > As I understand it, Vodafone provide Talks free of charge so > consequently they pay! > > Now they are only prepared to offer this on a couple of older > phones. > > I know it's a bit of a pain as you can't have it free from them > on say newer phones but that's how it is I'm afraid. > > Regards, > > Tony Sweeney > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jackie mcbrearty > To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 6:50 AM > Subject: [vip_students] Re: talks question > > > Yeah john > i'm depending on my best friend an old teacher actually > master card to pay the remaining few hundred once i pay him back he's > happy enough. If only vodafone would give us more options. > Jackie > > -original message- > Subject: [vip_students] Re: talks question > From: "John O'Regan" <john.a.oregan@xxxxxxxxx> > Date: 22/09/2010 10:41 pm > > Dear Eleanor, > > The one thing stopping Jackie from buying her own phone > would be the > price. If you want to purchase a handset without an airtime > contract, > the cost can be prohibitively expensive. And then she'd have > to buy > and install the TALKS software herself. A daunting prospect > for many > non-techies, > > John > > ******************************************************************** National Council for the Blind of Ireland (NCBI) is a company limited by guarantee (registered in Ireland No. 26293) . Our registered office is at Whitworth Road, Drumcondra, Dublin 9. NCBI is also a registered Charity (chy4626). NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. 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