Dear Pauline, Here it is. It's very long so I hope it doesn't break... http://kent.dl.sourceforge.net/project/cdexos/cdexos/CDex%201.70%20beta%204%202009/CDex-win32-1.70-b4-2009.exe Courtesy of a reply from Albert Brown to Jackie McBrearty on Feb 28th. Which is my way of saying the link above might no longer point to the latest version. But more and more software these days comes with a Check for Updates option usually in the Help menu. Spybot S&D and Thunderbird, for example. And JAWS, too. In fact, there's an update for JAWS 11 now available. 48Mb or something like that, happy downloading, John.