Audio CAPTCHA is a bad idea, since it also discriminates against people with hearing impairments (or none). One instance recently: There is a classifieds list called craigslist in America, for which the list owners felt obliged to make the audio CAPTCHA much more difficult than it had been recently, due to advances in voice-recognition technology and mass sign-ups that had been beginning to occur. Now there is a petition asking to change this again, since the audio is so 'painful' for those blind with no hearing impairments as well. (As i said, it is a US-based list. Some will have heard of craigslist.) I favour the numbers alternative. Surprisingly, it has been tried by some organisations and found to be successful and no bots have yet abused it apparently (This is not to say that such won't ever ahappen. But the days of image CAPTCHA are numbered, since machines are beginning to recognise the distorted images of alphanumeric characters.) Finally, as we are being victimised it isn't really our job to make the arguments in favour of visual or audio CAPTCHA for those who would deploy it. If CAPTCHA must be, then we ought to have three or four alternative versions of CAPTCHA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Declan Meenagh" <dmeenagh@xxxxxxxxx> To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:19 AM Subject: [vicsireland] Re: research on audio CAPTCHA I recently read an artical saying that visual capshas are easy to get around. They don't work at all. The problem with questions like that is that computers can be used to get around them. How would you get around this. I thaught of mis spelling something so it would sound the same with a screen reader, but wouldn't look the same for bots. 2008/6/26 Claude Saulnier <claude.saulnier@xxxxxxxxxxxx>: > Hi > > On the Captcha matter, we are doing some research ourselves. > > In order to avoid captcha and the audio, and the complexity and so on, we > were thinking of using a question such as what is 2 + 3 and you then need > to > enter the result to validate the form. I have seen it used and I like the > simplicity of it. > > Have you seen this type of stuff and if so, what is your opinion? > > Tx > > Claude Saulnier > www.wandsoft.com > > > > -- www.DeclanMeenagh.com || DMeenagh@xxxxxxxxx || Declan.P.Meenagh@xxxxxxx LInkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/declanmeenagh Minds: administrator/ents officer, Omega: webmaster, ~ You can't stop the signal! ~ http://signal.serenityfirefly.com/