hi all am doing the ecdl file management module have been asked various about files in a folder e.g. the four smallest files to arrange the files alphabetically to count the files including the hidden files etc etc if I put the view in list mode jaws will only read the name of the files and subfolders how do i get jaws to read the size and type while in list view and also how do i autoarrange the files first and folders and vice versa any help regards Paul h tigerone@xxxxxxxxxx