[vicsireland] Re: JAWS 8 and Templates.

MessageHi Tim.

Thanks for spending the time on this. No, it's not conveluted and I'll give 
this a go. What you say makes sense. Thanks again

Damien.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tim Culhane 
  To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:51 AM
  Subject: [vicsireland] Re: JAWS 8 and Templates.


  Hi Damien,

  Ok,  I've downloaded one of the flyers  and  I reckon the problem  is that  
embedded graphics are being used,  and no alt text  is used with the graphics,  
so jaws sees nothing.

  Like the web,  if you  don't put alt text on graphics in word documents,  
jaws  won't  see them at all.

  To see if your problem  is related to  embedded  graphics,   open   the 
template  and  then hit  control + jawskey + shift + g.

  This should bring up a list  of the embedded graphics  on the page.

  If it doesn't,  then maybe your problem  is not  related to this.

  I've found  a bit of a hack   for  converting  the graphics  to text ....   
but I don't know  if this  messes up the template,  so it mightn't  be any use 
for you.

  Again,  open  the  template.

  Using the  jaws cursor  you should be able to find   the text in  the graphic 
on the page.

  Hit the left mouse  button,  (the slash key  on  the number pad)  to 
highlight the text.

  Then click the right mouse button (* key  on number pad),  and a context menu 
 should appear.

  select translate.

  Then  select  entire document  and choose text.

  Word  will then try and open  a website to translate the document into 
another language.  You don't  really  want this,  but a side effect seems to be 
that the graphics  in your template   is now  text which jaws can read.

  There is probably an easier way of doing this,  but  I'm  no expert in word!

  I know this sounds conviluted,  and as I say if the template layout  is 
messed up  it won't even solve your  problem,  but at least you will have the 
text.

  Regards,

  Tim

    -----Original Message-----
    From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Damien O'Connor
    Sent: 31 January 2008 11:07
    To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [vicsireland] Re: JAWS 8 and Templates.


    Hi Tim.

    Thanks for this. No They're not forms. They are content controles. The 
templates I'm talking about are ones I've downloaded from the microsoft 
website. They are for flyers. the idea is that they are already designed and 
all you do is to put in your information. The formatting and overall style of 
the template is retained.

    Damien.  
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Tim Culhane 
      To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:37 AM
      Subject: [vicsireland] Re: JAWS 8 and Templates.


      Hi Damien,

      Does  the word template contain  a form?

      If so,  it really  depends on how  the form was created.  There are 
guidelines for   creating  accessible   word forms.

      I would suggest  looking  at   the   microsoft word  section  in the  
jaws online help.  Specifically look at  the  helpful hints for word section,  
where you will find info  on navigating  word forms.

      Tim

        -----Original Message-----
        From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Damien O'Connor
        Sent: 31 January 2008 10:24
        To: vics Ireland
        Subject: [vicsireland] JAWS 8 and Templates.


        Hello everyone.

        I wonder if anyone can help. I've sent this query to the jaws light 
user group and had no response so thought I'd try vics members. Please accept 
my apologies if this isn't the kind of thing vics Ireland is for but, I'm 
getting desperate.

        This isn't really a specific question, so, I apologise in advance if 
I'm sounding vague. 

        I'm currently working through a desktop publishing module on my 
computer course and am trying to use JAWS 8 with templates downloaded from the 
Microsoft
        website into ms word 2007. Once downloaded in order to enter 
information I have to click into place views on each template. and then enter 
specific information.
        However, Jaws doesn't read the downloaded template and I can't seem to 
access the areas of the template that require information. Has anyone had any 
experience
        of using jaws and templates downloaded from the Microsoft website and 
if so, can anyone advise me on the best way forward. 

        Thanks in advance. 

        Damien O'Connor.




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