Hi Paul! Thanks for the forward regarding my sticky key problem. I'll try that. Regarding the Insert key, that's just it. There is no key that acts as the Insert key. I think, or rather I hope, it's a settings issue. The second from the top right would depend on the keyboard layout of the laptop. On my old one that would in deed have been correct. But the layouts on laptops differ a lot. In fact the keyboard of my new one must have been designed by a mouse fondler and no mistake. Some of the classic positions of keys were discarded to the effect that formerly single-handed keystrokes now have to be executed with both hands. Anyway, I'm still open to suggestions as to the Insert key. Cheers, Robbie From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Dromey Sent: Montag, 16. Oktober 2006 15:42 To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Help find Insert key Hello Robbie. You can use either the second key from top right, or the caps lock key as insert for jaws. I had the exact same problem with the Control key and got a number of suggestions from this list, some of which I've pasted below. I still occasionally get the problem with my laptop and haven't put Paul Traynor's advice, as immediately below, into action to date - but I'm going to do it now! So, thanks for the reminder. Paul Dromey Hi Paul, You are having a problem which I have seen affect some keyboards and jaws. It can be fixed by renaming a jaws keyboard driver. 1. Go to "start menu, search". 2. Tab to the button that says "show all files and folders" and hit the spacebar. 3. Now in the resulting edit box type in the following name: jfwkeybd.vxd and press the "enter key". 4. Wait a while as win xp is slow at coming back with results. Tab when you think it should be finished until you come to the results listbox. 5. There should be at least one file there of the same name you typed into your search 6. Arrow to this file to select it and then press the "F2 key" to activate the rename box. 7. Now give it the following name: jfwkeybd.vx and press the enter key to complete. Notice that we left off the "D" at the end of the filename. Thisi is so that jaws no longer uses this driver. 9. Reboot the computer and see how it goes for you. Paul. Hi all ant thanks for all the suggestions. Yes, I noticed that tapping the offending key a couple of times offered a temporary fix. It's unlikely that the underside of the keys need cleaning as the laptop is new. Murphy's Law decreed that, as soon as I posted my question to the list, the problem promptly disappeared! When it re-occurs, as no doubt it will, I'll get down to re-naming the file as Paul suggests. Thanks again. Paul D -----Original Message----- >From: Tim Culhane [mailto:tim.culhane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 14 March 2006 08:09 To: vics-irl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [vics-irl] Control Key Jamming Hi, Keys such as control, shift and alt do have a tendency to become "sticky" on some systems running jaws. As a result when you type other keys it appears that these keys are held down as well. It can be useful to tap the offending key several times to relieve the stickyness. If this doesn't work, try unloading and reloading jaws. Tim -----Original Message----- >From: Gerry Ellis [mailto:gerry.ellis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 11 March 2006 07:46 To: vics-irl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [vics-irl] Control Key Jamming Hi, I can suggest two possible solutions. Firstly,take off the two control keys and make sure that the spaces underneath are clean. Secondly, I noticed this a couple of times on a laptop I used to have. I found that when it happened, if I hit the control key twice, the problem disappeared. Mind you, it re-appeared again sometime later. This was one of those things that happened now and again and I never worked out why. I hope this helps. Take care, Gerry Ellis t/a Feel The BenefIT Tel (+353-1) 282-7791 Mob (085) 716-8665 email gerry.ellis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx If you don't know where you're going, How will you know when you get there? ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Paul Dromey" <pdromey@xxxxxx> To: <vics-irl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:39 PM Subject: [vics-irl] Control Key Jamming > Hi Vicsters > > I've recently got a laptop and am repeatedly experiencing an annoying > problem I've also occasionally come across on my old desktop. All of > a sudden, jaws tells me that a command, for example spacebar or enter, > becomes control spacebar or control enter, resulting in a different > command than that which I'm trying to achieve. The problem goes away > temporarily if I hold down the control key with a letter, but comes > back again pretty quickly. -----Original Message----- From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Sandberg, Robert Sent: 16 October 2006 10:00 To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [vicsireland] Help find Insert key Hi folks! I've got a new Toshiba laptop and can't work out how to activate the JAWS Insert key. Strangely, the function key, together with the p or the semicolon switches between the JAWS and PC cursor, but it doesn't act as the Insert key in any other JAWS key stroke. Can someone tell me what to do? Needless to say, I've got the Insert mode option checked. And there's another thing that's new on me. The alt-gr key seams to act like a caps lock on the control key. So every time I type an at for instance, the following keystrokes have the same effect as if they had been pressed together with control. Can that be deactivated? Cheers, Robbie