Oh my! I just got the pants shocked off of me. I have not been training much the last few weeks with Thane. I did not have a lot of motivation as I was frankly frustrated about the process not going anywhere. He is being bored by our routine change with the season change so I decided to give it a shot. I took the item to various levels and he took it, raised his head back up (something we were having a lot of trouble with) and then would give it to me when I said *give*. I decided to test things and lowered it all the way to the ground. Thane took it from the ground! He raised back up and gave it to me. He did this twice. Of course I went ballistic which got him highstrung and had to end the session before that high note became distant memory but it was so cool even if he doesn't have it everytime yet and my hand was still on the item. I was just ecstatic that just maybe this guy is gonna get retrieve afterall! Karyn and Thane