Hi Dianne, Well, I'm not sure about how well Cynthia can handle Peggy's size, but she thinks Peggy's just not a good match for her. I suspect she'll end up getting another dog. That's the way it looks like it's working out. Take care. Mona ----- Original Message ----- From: "DIANNE B. PHELPS AND PRIMROSE" <d.bphelps@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:17 PM Subject: (VICT) Re: questions from a friend about her guide dog > Mona, > > That is a lot of dog to handle at 80 pounds, especially when going really > really fast. It may be that the size dog physically can't go any slower. I > don't know how tall your friend, Peggy is, but she really may just have > too > much dog in her corner. I have worked large dogs, but they were dogs with > really compliant personalities who walked at a good pace for me. > > Hope all works out well. > > Dianne, Hibiscus, and Primrose > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mona Ramouni" <mramouni@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:26 PM > Subject: (VICT) Re: questions from a friend about her guide dog > > >> Hi Dianne, >> Thanks for describing the harness break method for me. It's helpful, and >> maybe I'll have to use it with Cali. Hopefully not, but it's always good >> to >> have information. >> I just talked to Cynthia, and she wanted me to add that Peggy is a >> physically strong dog and pretty stubborn. I want to say she weighs about >> eighty pounds, and Cynthia I should let everyone know this because it >> might >> change some responses. >> So, everyone, thanks for all the suggestions. I'm hoping that what's best >> for Cynthia and Peggy happens, and your help is invaluable. >> Take care, and stay warm. >> Mona >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "DIANNE B. PHELPS AND PRIMROSE" <d.bphDielps@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:55 PM >> Subject: (VICT) Re: questions from a friend about her guide dog >> >> >>> That is why I suggested the harness break method. It is one of the older >>> techniques for slowing a dog down, but if she can get a favorable >>> response >>> to that and then incorporate the new techniques to encouerage the >>> behavior >>> to continue, it may help. If I didn't explain it well, you realize it >>> consists of a sharp firm backward pull on the harness and then a >>> release. >>> >>> I don't have to do this at all with my current dog, but it did help me a >>> good bit with Primrose.Dianne, Hibiscus, and Primrose >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <Infinitepaws@xxxxxxx> >>> To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:54 PM >>> Subject: (VICT) Re: questions from a friend about her guide dog >>> >>> >>>> In a message dated 12/12/2008 6:23:08 P.M. Central Standard Time, >>>> mramouni@xxxxxxxxx writes: >>>> So, what I'm really trying to do is give Cynthia some other ideas. >>>> She's >>>> open to them, but only to a certain extent. One of the things she >>>> believes >>>> is that the clicker training would confuse the dog. I, for one, think >>>> that's >>>> not giving the dog enough credit. >>>> Anyway, I really appreciate your suggestions >>>> >>>> >>>> its a process, learning about clicker training.. and remember, you dont >>>> actually have to use the clicker itself, just the principles..and those >>>> she is >>>> already using, just with heavier emphasis on other quadrants of >>>> learning >>>> tec >>>> hniques. h >>>> **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and >>>> favorite sites in one place. Try it now. >>>> (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > >