In a message dated 12/13/2008 2:30:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, d.bphelps@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: To those who are die-hard clicker users, please don't take offense at my suggestion here because it is of the older techniques. I am juust thinking with this particular dog being trained with different techniques, this might help. If I have over-stepped my welcome, I apologize. I just know how terrible being dragged by a guide dog feels even when they are doing their job. Enough is enough after a while. Respectfully, I would caution that if this technique doesn't work after a short trial, re-evaluate. Especially if it confuses the dog.. handlers can get too focused on noticing what their dogs do wrong and unintentionally draw attention to it, thus increasing its presence, versus noticing and praising when the dog does it right.We as humans can be suckered into correcting as a wway to make us feell like we are doing something about a problem, that then becomes a reward for us, not necessarily a effective training technique. That said I have tried a harnesss check along with making sure I watched for ,clicked and rewarded the instant of slowing. I would be more likely to use that in apinch of a situation vs a normal one.. I feel it as a failure to have trainedd my dog well enough to handle the situation before it came to that choice..If I had trained him well enough and been clearer with my communication, I wouldn't have needed to resort to that technique. I still think it is easier to teach the normal pull and pace as a rewarded , trained and non-cued behavior. It is the rule to get to play the guiding game with me..All dogs and humans should have to play by the rules.. grin Sandy **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)