(VICT) Re: questions from a friend about her guide dog

  • From: Infinitepaws@xxxxxxx
  • To: vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:45:21 EST

In a message dated 12/13/2008 2:30:07 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
d.bphelps@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
To those  who are die-hard clicker users, please don't take offense at my 
suggestion  here because it is of the older techniques. I am juust thinking 
with this  particular dog being trained with different techniques, this might 
help.  If I have over-stepped my welcome, I apologize. I just know how 
terrible  being dragged by a guide dog feels even when they are doing their 
job.  Enough is enough after a  while.

Respectfully,



I would caution that if this technique doesn't work after a short trial,  
re-evaluate. Especially if it confuses the dog.. handlers can get too focused 
on  
noticing what their dogs do wrong and unintentionally draw attention to it, 
thus  increasing its presence, versus noticing and praising when the dog does 
it  right.We as humans can be suckered into correcting as a wway to make us 
feell  like we are doing something about a problem, that then becomes a reward 
for us,  not necessarily a effective training technique. That said I have tried 
a  harnesss check along with making sure I watched for ,clicked and rewarded 
the  instant of slowing. I would be more likely to use that in apinch of a 
situation  vs a normal one.. I feel it as a failure to have trainedd my dog 
well 
enough to  handle  the situation before it came to that choice..If I had 
trained  him well enough and been clearer with my communication, I wouldn't 
have 
needed  to resort to that technique. I  still think it is easier to teach the  
normal pull and pace as a rewarded , trained and non-cued behavior. It is the  
rule to get to play the guiding game with me..All dogs and humans should  have 
to play by the rules.. grin
 
Sandy
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