Kitty, This is disturbing news, and I can certainly see how such a negative experience would be more than unnerving? I have a couple of questions for you if you don't mind. Does Sunstar jump on and off the escalator or just walk, and did her injury take place right at the end or someplace before. I hope you don't mind my asking. I have ridden escalators with both my last two dogs, and there is a little hesitation and jump to get on board and a fairly pronounced jump to get off which I have to make sure everyone is prepared for. Gretch may be over exaggerating this process, but so far, both my dogs have been safe. I am so sorry Sunstar was injured. Sheila Styron, President Guide Dog Users, Inc. 816-363-3172 sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of kitty hevener Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:41 AM To: visually impaired clicker trainers Subject: (VICT) escallator travel Hi Everyone, I am wondering if you take your guide or service dog on escallators. If so, have you ever had your dog get injured? A few years ago, at an acb convention, I had an instructor from my school teach me and my dog how to do escallator travel. I decided to do that after having to wait forever for an elevator. All went well, and we traveled by escallator for the past 3-4 years. Unfortunately, on jul 13, 3 hours in to my short stay in toronto, something went very very wrong!! As we were getting off the up escallator, my girl started yelping very loudly. I immediately started yelling for someone to stop the escallator. I was loosing my balance as well. The end result was that she had to have stitches in her back paw. The vet said that he could see the tissue, but he did not see any damage to her ligaments muscles, or tendons. I honostly do not know how the accident happened. And, I really feel horrible as the last thing I would ever want is to cause her any pain. Friends have asked if we will continue escallator travel. At this point, I am not sure I will ever be able to do it again. Yet, at times, there doesn't seem to be any other alternative. Any thought as to how such an accident could have occurred? Btw, her nails did not get caught at all. My vet said her injury is healing nicely. I have an appointment on tuesday and am hoping they will remove the stitches, if there are any left. A friend who is a physician's assistant changed her bandage yesterday, and, shortly after he left, I discovered that she had pulled it off and was licking the paw. Got another bandage on and she managed to take it and a boot that have had on her when she goes outside, off and was again licking the area. A neighbor who is a nurse helped me bandage it again. She couldn't tell if sunstar had done any damage. Until yesterday, I had been able to give her bully sticks and other things to distract her from trying to get the bandage off. I am wondering if her instincts are telling her that it is time to remove the stitches and that is what she is attempting to do. Any thoughts?