Dear Sandy, When you give verbal cues for bus stops and the like, you are in the vicinity. So I bet simply pointing or gesturing in the direction where you know they are and looking in that direction will do the job just fine and probably sooner than you think, if indeed this all proves to be necessary. <smile and crossing fingers> These dogs are so wonderful Alex will be there for you with most likely a less noticeable communication glitch than anyone else in your life. Sheila Styron, President Guide Dog Users, Inc. 816-363-3172 sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vi-clicker-trainers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Infinitepaws@xxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:03 PM To: vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: (VICT) Re: Non-verbal cues-ideas needed. In a message dated 10/10/2007 8:50:40 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, sheilastyron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: I think getting Alex to react to nonverbal requests will be a breeze for you, and I wish your return to good health. The basic cues should be ok since I have deaf Great Danes.. what I am more concerned about is the cues to find places like the bus stops/benches, seats, trash as well as her retrieve cues for different items.. I have realized how many verbal cues I use that may need to be re-taught with non-verbal cues..Maybe I shouldn't worry too much about it until I find out what I will have as far as vocal capabilities.. but part of me tries to think ahead and focusing on this helps keep me from just sitting down and laughing/crying hysterically.. Dog training as therapy.. Lord, I must sound really unstable.. tiny grin..maybe I should brush up the basic hand signals I use with all the dogs and try out some for her guide work.. She still cant really go in public with me as she still smells faintly of the skunk from a couple weeks ago.. Anyone know how long before she will smell ok? But we c ould work out on the streets in the neighborhood..Although I am incredibly exhausted and have been going to bed between 7 and 8 pm each night.. I could work on it on the weekend. Sandy Foushee Infinite Paws-Abilities Training and Service Dogs Teamed with Alexandra Guide/Service Dog Colorado Service/Assistance Dog Club - Trainer.- ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com