In a message dated 8/31/2007 1:53:08 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, metnme2@xxxxxxxxx writes: It uses this plastic loop strap that you loop through some slots instead of those tiny brad like fasteners If you need another, let me know . I think I paid 5 bucks for the dane size ones I have been buying for Drifter and Hobie..they are the plastic ones with the slots..Drif is afraid to have it put on over his head so I have had to lace it on each time.. holds up ok, but gets kind of grungy fast.. of course danes are a little bit drooly.. Sandy Foushee Infinite Paws-Abilities Training and Service Dogs Teamed with Alexandra Guide/Service Dog Colorado Service/Assistance Dog Club - Trainer.- ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour