Hi, Christy, Yes, the guide should slow down a couple of steps before stopping at a curb or step. As for the length of the harness handle, it depends on the height and length of the guide, and to a certain extent, on your height and the length of your stride. You definitely want to be positioned so that you are walking a step or a step and a half behind the front feet of your dog. And you want the handle to be long enough so that you can walk upright, with your arm hanging comfortably at your side and the hand holding the harness handle only slightly ahead of the verticle. You want to be positioned opposite the hip of your dog, or at least that is where I feel the most comfortable, and where I get the necessary feedback from the dog out in front of me so that I can anticipate what is coming and respond to the cues that come through the harness. You may have to experiment with different length handles to find the one that works best for you. Best, Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: <care4k9@xxxxxxx> To: <vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 1:50 PM Subject: (VICT) Re: Pulling or not pulling > Karyn, > > Thanks for your input. Even though I have taught Mickey to go > slightly into me, he naturally would put his front paws on a curb or step > and stop. Like he was telling, "I really know what to do better than you!" > It is probably why I couldn't get him to work my way. LOL! I was confusing > my poor dog when he knew the better way! > > I haven't done a trainignsession in guiding with Mickey, I jut put > the harness on and go. Meaning when I'm in a hurry to go some place. I > need to set time to work a curb, rather than only work a curb maybe twice > when we are going some where. I thnk if we can break down the exercise, he > and I will start to click. > > I hope that stepping on the curb or step will work. I think my > handle is a little too short and I'm worry that I might trip on the curb. > But is a dog suppose to slow down before a step to give you a heads up? I > may have to ask Julie for a longer handle. It just seems it should be > longer, but I don't know and how much? I know this is for me to determine, > but I don't have easy access to different sizes to try out. > > -- > Christy Hill > A'Mickey > *************** > http://home.att.net/~care4k9 > > >