[vi-android] Re: TalkBack vs VoiceAssistant and Some Questions

  • From: Dane Trethowan <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 17:44:23 +1100

I hope this feature does get incorporated into Talkback, its a standard gesture whatever OS you're using whether that be IOS or Android.



On 1/13/2017 5:22 PM, Victor Tsaran wrote:

The two-finger double-tap is a gesture which TalkBack does not control.
However, the feature itself is on the consideration list.


On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:gera1027@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    Victor and Talkback devs: so there you have a feature that I'd
    like to someday see incorporated into Talkback! the two-finger
    double-tap to pause playing media on our Androids!

    El 12/01/2017 a las 10:02 p.m., Christopher Chaltain escribió:

        Yes, I just tested this with Voice Assistant and Talk Back,
        and it's true. With Voice Assistant, I could start something
        playing in the Samsung Music app and use the two finger double
        tap to pause the music from any screen. When I switched to
        Talk Back, this didn't work. I assumed this was a Samsung
        thing and not a Voice Assistant specific feature, so I was
        surprised when it didn't work when I was running Talk Back.

        On 12/01/17 21:53, Gerardo Corripio wrote:

            Regarding the Voice Assistant versus Talkback topic, is it
            true that
            with Voice Assistant, like on the competition, during
            playback of music,
            Youtube etc., one can double-tap twice to pause, versus
            with Talkback
            this can't be accomplished yet?


            El 12/01/2017 a las 09:42 p.m., Christopher Chaltain escribió:

                Talk Back supports custom actions, which is a definite
                advantage for
                Talk Back. You have the context menus in Talk Back, so
                you can get to
                more features and options that way. You can interact
                with the
                developers on the Eyes-Free list and participate in
                the Talk Back
                betas, which is another point in Talk Back's favor.
                Some people will
                say that Talk Back is more responsive, is updated more
                frequently and
                is part of pure Android so it was the way Google meant
                for you to
                interact with your phone. I haven't noticed that it's
                more responsive
                than Voice Assistant, and I can't tell how often Voice
                Assistant is
                updated, so I don't know if Talk Back is more up to
                date or not. I
                don't have a problem using software from companies
                other than Google,
                so the fact that Samsung made some changes to Talk
                Back's source code
                isn't an issue for me.

                Voice Assistant uses some different gestures, so
                people that don't
                like the angle gestures in Talk Back may prefer Voice
                Assistant. You
                don't have the context menus in Voice Assistant, and
                it supports more
                than two finger gestures, so you get more shortcuts to
                change things
                like screen dimming, voice rate, ..., or check the
                status of things
                like the time, battery charge and so on.

                Right now I'm using Voice Assistant, but in general I
                prefer Talk Back
                a bit, mostly because of the custom actions support.
                I'd suggest you
                try each of them and decide for yourself which you prefer.

                I'm not sure about the notifications, but this is how
                notifications
                work on my S7, so there has to be a setting to
                accomplish this. Maybe
                someone else will know which settings to tweak to
                accomplish this or
                maybe you'll stumble across it yourself. Sorry, but
                I've looked
                around, and I just can't remember what I might have
                done to set this
                behavior.

                You can configure the triple click of the home button
                to toggle any
                accessibility service, including Talk Back. You can
                also have it
                present a dialog of services to start. If you want it
                to just toggle
                Talk Back on and off then go into Settings ->
                Accessibility -> Direct
                Access and make sure Talk Back is the only service
                that's toggled on.

                On 12/01/17 13:52, Matthew Chao wrote:

                    Hi, Folks.  Can someone on this list tell me the
                    advantages and
                    disadvantages of TalkBack and VoiceAssistant? I'm
                    using a Galaxy S7.


                    Also, how do I get the Notifications to give me an
                    audible, but not
                    bring up the screen.  This is very distracting.


                    Finally, is there a quick way to turn TalkBack off
                    and on so I can have
                    a sighted person be able to use this phone?
                    VoiceAssistant has the
                    Apple-like tripple-click which I like, but saw
                    nothing like that with
                    TalkBack.  Thanks in advance for your info.


                    Matthew Chao


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