[va-richmond-general] Re: stray cats

Sorry, Doug. I was kidding about the shotguns (I said so in my post). I 
wouldn't even want to shoot a squirrel (though I don't mind the neighborhood 
hawk having a little gray snack now and then). I love cats, also. I would have 
responded to the person personally, but when I hit reply it sent it to the 
listserv. I love responsible pet owners. My apologies if my post was 
misinterpreted.

Michael

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: D.B. Sinclair 
  To: va-richmond-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 8:46 AM
  Subject: [va-richmond-general] Re: stray cats



  I think that we get the idea about stray cats and my best guess would be
  that you are pretty much preaching to the choir in this venue.  I happen to
  love cats (have 5!) and try to be a responsible "owner."  I also love
  birding and Richmond Audubon and think that the focus of this listserve
  should continue to be on birds, birding and the major conservation issues
  that affect a supportive habitat.  Shotguns and stray cats might be a better
  conversation to be held offline in order to avoid possibly offending the
  responsible pet owners privy to this delightful forum.
  Doug Sinclair




  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Michael Shapiro" <sc.tanager@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  To: <va-richmond-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 7:54 PM
  Subject: [va-richmond-general] Re: stray cats


  >     Cats aren't considered as much of a problem because they don't attack
  people, usually. A scratch from a cat can cause an infection, but you rarely
  die from it, and most stray cats will run away. Same can't be said about
  dogs. However, I also think that police, etc... care ONLY when human life is
  at risk and often couldn't care LESS if it is otherwise. Think how times
  people have warned about pollution and its effects on wildlife over the
  years. It wasn't until rivers caught on fire and entire towns (such as
  LoveCanal) had to be relocated that anyone in authority began to take these
  issues seriously. It's part of the NIMBY Syndrome - "if it's Not In My
  BackYard, I couldn't care less about it/if it doesn't affect me
  directly/won't cost me my job, why should I care?"
  >
  > Michael
  >
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: IE Ries
  >   To: va-richmond-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >   Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:08 AM
  >   Subject: [va-richmond-general] Re: stray cats
  >
  >
  >
  >   >Irene now wonders if we could also make an appointment for all the
  >   irresponsible owners, too!<
  >
  >   Yeah, I know about the humane traps...our property manager is already
  >   working on that.  I did try to contact the local animal control office,
  but
  >   they were useless.  They stated they loaned all their traps out and
  never
  >   got them back, and they can't come and collect the cats, just problem
  dogs
  >   or wildlife.
  >
  >   I find that completely ridiculous because cats are FAR more of a problem
  >   around here then dogs ever could be, and we've got dwindling wildlife as
  it
  >   is (I refuse to ever consider wildlife a "nuisance" since it's supposed
  to
  >   be here and cats are an invasive, introduced species).
  >
  >   I'm hoping the humane traps our property management company is going to
  use
  >   will work.  I'm tired of cats constantly hanging around, and jumping
  THROUGH
  >   my kitchen window to come after birds.
  >
  >   Irene Ries
  >   Southside Richmond
  >
  >
  >
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: "Michael Shapiro" <sc.tanager@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  >   To: <va-richmond-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  >   Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:11 AM
  >   Subject: [va-richmond-general] Re: stray cats
  >
  >
  >   >     A shot gun works wonders for strays. I'm kidding! Stray cats are a
  >   major peeve of mine, though the problem is the owners. It's not the
  cat's
  >   fault. Humane traps can be set and the animal taken to a local Humane
  >   Society or Pet Rescue organization. Contact either the police or a pet
  store
  >   that works with a  pet rescue group (or the group themselves). They
  might be
  >   able to help you.
  >   >
  >   > Michael Shapiro
  >   > sc.tanager@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >   >
  >   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   >   From: IE Ries
  >   >   To: va-richmond-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >   >   Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 11:45 PM
  >   >   Subject: [va-richmond-general] Re: Ginter today
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >   There's one along the throughway at the back of my townhouse (we
  don't
  >   have
  >   >   separate yards).  Every spring and summer, the birds and I enter
  into an
  >   >   agreement:  I get whatever I can reach and they get the rest!  I
  have
  >   seen
  >   >   birds really shake that tree down for berries, too, but I didn't
  realize
  >   >   that ST's like it so much.
  >   >
  >   >   Unfortunately, we have so many stray cats running loose around here,
  I
  >   >   wonder if any birds will hang around it.  Anyone have ideas on how
  to
  >   >   permanently rid an area of stray cats?
  >   >
  >   >   Frustrated Irene
  >   >   Southside Richmond
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   >   From: "Al Warfield" <warfield101@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  >   >   To: "Audubon Listserve" <va-richmond-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  >   >   Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 10:12 PM
  >   >   Subject: [va-richmond-general] Ginter today
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >   > At Ginter Bot Gardens today we walked around the main pond and the
  >   >   Children's Garden toward the upper pond, and there is a large
  mulberry
  >   tree
  >   >   full of ripe mulberries there on the left side of the gravel road.
  We
  >   were
  >   >   under it and noticed a Scarlet Tanager about 8 feet away, only about
  8
  >   feet
  >   >   off the ground. That was the closest we had ever been to a Scarlet
  >   Tanager.
  >   >   Before I could gather my senses and lift the camera, which had a 400
  mm
  >   lens
  >   >   attached, the bird was out of that tree and into a nearby oak. Then
  we
  >   saw
  >   >   the female in the oak as well. Later we saw them again several
  times,
  >   but
  >   >   never that close again. If you know of a mulberry tree that is ripe
  you
  >   can
  >   >   use it to your advantage. They are very good at attracting all sorts
  of
  >   >   birds this time of year.
  >   >   >
  >   >   > Al Warfield
  >   >   >
  >   >   >
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