[va-richmond-general] FW: FW: North Salem, NY bobolinks

More on the topic of mowing.  Interesting to see how these people increased
their bobolink population by working with landowners.

Jan

 

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More Info from Pat Canning-Reta
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From: Nomini3@xxxxxxx 
To: smok5y@xxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 1:31 PM
Subject: Fwd: FW: North Salem, NY bobolinks

Hi Reta,
 
Here's another email on the NY bobolink work. Not sure how much info you
want to send on but I thought there might be some folks interested here!
Pat

Hi:
 
Thanks for this Prudence, it's very encouraging to think that our bobolink
work has had an influence all the way down to the Chesapeake Bay.
 
Richard is working on the web page for the bobolink story, and i told him
we'll have some good text to add to that once we are done with the main
report that, lucky for us, Nina Bianco has graciously agreed to start
working on--thanks Nina (and thanks Cynthia for the direction you gave Nina
early this summer for this report).  
 
As you know, we found 116 bobolinks on the last N. Salem survey, so it looks
like about 50 fledglings were born and survived this summer, how great.
 
And we are speaking with NY DEC and the Hudson River Estuary program to see
about getting grant money as an incentive to pay those farmers who are still
haying on Mills Rd. and Keeler Rd., we figure they may lose about 20%, maybe
$1/bale by delaying mowing, that's not much and i'm working on finding the
money so they don't mow so early next spring.
 
We'll keep at it and please keep me posted.
 
Thanks,
 
Jim

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CC: jim_nordgren@xxxxxxxxxxx
From: prudencelev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: cynthiamcurtis@xxxxxxxxx 

Subject: Re: North Salem, NY bobolinks

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:28:37 -0400 


Hi Cynthia, 


No Audubon doesn't have this info on the internet, but I'm sending a copy of
this reply to Jim Nordgren, executive director of Bedford Audubon.  I have
already asked that National Audubon devote a page on its web site to haying
recommendations; hopefully, your email will add legs to this request.
Meanwhile, please pass the following info to those who expressed interest: 

Most ground nesting birds are building nests and laying eggs from late May
through early June, chicks hatch from mid to late June and are able to feed
and fly (fledge) by early July.  So in NYS it is safe to mow up to late May
and after mid July, not in between.  These dates would be moved back going
southward to warmer climes.  However, an inordinately wet and cold spring
could delay the nesting process.  So it is best that folks check with their
regional Audubon chapter for updated mowing guidelines.

Many thanks for passing along our town's bobolink story.  The piece you have
was written for (and mailed to) a limited list of landowners.  I'm sending
you a more recent version (in a separate email) that is intended for general
interest. 

All the best, Prudence        


 

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From: James Nordgren <jim_nordgren@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:54 AM
Subject: FW: North Salem, NY bobolinks
To: Taite <taitjohansson@xxxxxxxxxxx>, askildsen@xxxxxxxxxxx, Richard Becker 
<rbecker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, kbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, 
cynthiamcurtis@xxxxxxxxx, Prudence <prudencelev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>



Hi:
 
Thanks for this Prudence, it's very encouraging to think that our bobolink work 
has had an influence all the way down to the Chesapeake Bay.
 
Richard is working on the web page for the bobolink story, and i told him we'll 
have some good text to add to that once we are done with the main report that, 
lucky for us, Nina Bianco has graciously agreed to start working on--thanks 
Nina (and thanks Cynthia for the direction you gave Nina early this summer for 
this report).  
 
As you know, we found 116 bobolinks on the last N. Salem survey, so it looks 
like about 50 fledglings were born and survived this summer, how great.
 
And we are speaking with NY DEC and the Hudson River Estuary program to see 
about getting grant money as an incentive to pay those farmers who are still 
haying on Mills Rd. and Keeler Rd., we figure they may lose about 20%, maybe 
$1/bale by delaying mowing, that's not much and i'm working on finding the 
money so they don't mow so early next spring.
 
We'll keep at it and please keep me posted.
 
Thanks,
 
Jim
 
 
 

 


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CC: jim_nordgren@xxxxxxxxxxx
From: prudencelev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: cynthiamcurtis@xxxxxxxxx

Subject: Re: North Salem, NY bobolinks

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:28:37 -0400


Hi Cynthia, 


No Audubon doesn't have this info on the internet, but I'm sending a copy of 
this reply to Jim Nordgren, executive director of Bedford Audubon.  I have 
already asked that National Audubon devote a page on its web site to haying 
recommendations; hopefully, your email will add legs to this request.  
Meanwhile, please pass the following info to those who expressed interest: 

Most ground nesting birds are building nests and laying eggs from late May 
through early June, chicks hatch from mid to late June and are able to feed and 
fly (fledge) by early July.  So in NYS it is safe to mow up to late May and 
after mid July, not in between.  These dates would be moved back going 
southward to warmer climes.  However, an inordinately wet and cold spring could 
delay the nesting process.  So it is best that folks check with their regional 
Audubon chapter for updated mowing guidelines.

Many thanks for passing along our town's bobolink story.  The piece you have 
was written for (and mailed to) a limited list of landowners.  I'm sending you 
a more recent version (in a separate email) that is intended for general 
interest. 

All the best, Prudence        


On Jul 22, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Cynthia Curtis wrote:


Pru,
You're not going to believe what's been started by one little email I sent to a 
friend in the Chesapeake Bay area......see emails below.  I sent her a copy of 
the recent story about bobolinks in North Salem and now everyone is asking 
about mowing of fields.
It would be nice to have a website dedicated to this subject....does Audubon?
Great work,
Cynthia


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Date: Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:48 AM
Subject: Fwd: FW: North Salem, NY bobolinks
To: cynthiamcurtis@xxxxxxxxx




Hi Cyn,  Look at what you started with that interesting email - I think 
something good for the birds will come of it! TX........
 
 
In a message dated 7/22/2009 8:51:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
nnasnet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:


Northern Bobwhite prefer what is sometimes referred to as "early successional" 
habitat - land that is just beginning to grow up after clearing or fire or farm 
fields that are abandoned or converted to timber. If you have open land that 
you want to optimize for quail you'll want to leave some of it unmowed all 
winter to provide cover and nesting area, but some parts you will want to mow 
or, better yet, burn off in late winter, to provide foraging/feeding grounds. 
They love edges and shrubby spots and eat an amazing variety of seeds and 
berries and such. Fescue lawns and pastures are a desert for quail; they far 
prefer warm season clumping grasses like bluestem and broomsedge and indian 
grass and such.
 
There is a lot of info available on line if you really want to improve your 
land for wildlife. Managing for quail benefits lots of other species as well 
including the aforementioned meadowlarks, grasshopper sparrows, etc. And, as 
Tom Teeples explains below, it need not look unkempt. King Carter Golf Course 
received a national award for the quality of its golf course and it is 
surrounded by warm-season grass meadows for aesthetic, not wildlife, reasons.
 
Tom Saunders
Ball's Neck


On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:59 AM, <nnasnet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



The King Carter Golf Course does not mow until early July.  I have seen the 
meadowlark population grow
each year we have been at Hills Quarter.  Nice flocks of them, now.......Tom 
Teeples 
 

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From: nnasnet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nnasnet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:44 PM
To: NNAS
Subject: Fw: North Salem, NY bobolinks



Any answers? Reta
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From: Nomini3@xxxxxxx 
To: smok5y@xxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: North Salem, NY bobolinks


Hi Reta,
 
I don't know how the nesting cycle is here.  I worry too about the meadowlarks 
in our subdivision which has many open fields and are mowed 3 times a year. I 
heard their song several years ago but have not heard them once this season. 
Perhaps Sandy Spencer would have some insight into this.  Pat
 
In a message dated 7/21/2009 7:46:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
nnasnet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:


Any Answers? Reta
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Skeet01lewis@xxxxxxx 
To: smok5y@xxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:33 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: North Salem, NY bobolinks


Can some one tell us when NOT to mow fields in the Northern Neck, specifically 
Ophelia to Burgess, in order to protect the bob whites or quail?  Thank you. 
Moira Nalls


 

 


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From: nnasnet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:50:27 -0400
Subject: Re: FW: North Salem, NY bobolinks


Northern Bobwhite prefer what is sometimes referred to as "early successional" 
habitat - land that is just beginning to grow up after clearing or fire or farm 
fields that are abandoned or converted to timber. If you have open land that 
you want to optimize for quail you'll want to leave some of it unmowed all 
winter to provide cover and nesting area, but some parts you will want to mow 
or, better yet, burn off in late winter, to provide foraging/feeding grounds. 
They love edges and shrubby spots and eat an amazing variety of seeds and 
berries and such. Fescue lawns and pastures are a desert for quail; they far 
prefer warm season clumping grasses like bluestem and broomsedge and indian 
grass and such.
 
There is a lot of info available on line if you really want to improve your 
land for wildlife. Managing for quail benefits lots of other species as well 
including the aforementioned meadowlarks, grasshopper sparrows, etc. And, as 
Tom Teeples explains below, it need not look unkempt. King Carter Golf Course 
received a national award for the quality of its golf course and it is 
surrounded by warm-season grass meadows for aesthetic, not wildlife, reasons.
 
Tom Saunders
Ball's Neck


On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:59 AM, <nnasnet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



The King Carter Golf Course does not mow until early July.  I have seen the 
meadowlark population grow
each year we have been at Hills Quarter.  Nice flocks of them, now.......Tom 
Teeples 
 

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From: nnasnet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nnasnet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:44 PM
To: NNAS
Subject: Fw: North Salem, NY bobolinks



Any answers? Reta
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Nomini3@xxxxxxx 
To: smok5y@xxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: North Salem, NY bobolinks


Hi Reta,
 
I don't know how the nesting cycle is here.  I worry too about the meadowlarks 
in our subdivision which has many open fields and are mowed 3 times a year. I 
heard their song several years ago but have not heard them once this season. 
Perhaps Sandy Spencer would have some insight into this.  Pat
 
In a message dated 7/21/2009 7:46:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
nnasnet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:


Any Answers? Reta
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Skeet01lewis@xxxxxxx 
To: smok5y@xxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:33 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: North Salem, NY bobolinks


Can some one tell us when NOT to mow fields in the Northern Neck, specifically 
Ophelia to Burgess, in order to protect the bob whites or quail?  Thank you. 
Moira Nalls


 
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