[uae] Re: Will there be a upcoming E-UAE release?
- From: Toni Wilen <twilen@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: uae@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:55:27 +0200
Hello I guess I should say something in this topic.. (was sent yesterday but used wrong sender address, post partially updated..) First, I only code WinUAE because I want to do it. It is a hobby. The end.I won't care or are interested in any communities or popularity or anything, especially so called "Amiga community" (because it always includes non-hobby, non-retro people that try to make emulation something that it isn't. "UAE with PPC emulation?" "Emulation kills the Amiga", especially if it runs on MS OS, but is suddenly great if it runs on acceptable Amiga-like host. Argh. Just leave me alone, thanks)
Which means I'll prefer doing this alone. I "only" want to learn everything about Amiga hardware (especially undocumented stuff that is used only by one or two demos..) and OS and play/watch some retro games and demos. WinUAE is a side-effect.
Nobody have really helped me much (I guess my questions are too difficult..) so I learned to be self-sufficient, I have bought lots of real hardware for testing, I even bought a logic analyzer for finding chipset internal workings.
About multiplatform UAE: You can never make all WinUAE features 100% portable. - direct harddrive, parallel port etc access is OS specific - ability to read all keyboard keys, including special keys - mouse capturing in windowed mode - bsdsocket - RTG new "fast display ram" feature needs memory write watch support - SCSI passthrough (CDROMs) - storing Amiga special file flags to file alternate streams - vsync - printing - video/sound capturing (codecs) - D3D filters - uaenet.device (backend only) - removable device support (insert USB stick and it appears on WB as a disk) etc..Fully multiplatform UAE would be very limited compared to current WinUAE. My goal is All-In-One Amiga emulation program. Everything in one executable. Even exotic stuff like Nordic Power cartridges, CDTV SCSI, etc..
Of course things are very different if you only want basic A500/A1200 emulation. Again, that is not my problem :)
AFAIK only portable display system would mean OpenGL but many display cards (Hello Intel..) have crappy and slow Windows 3D support..
Sound: OpenAL is already implemented and it seems to work fine. (but again, there are some crappy MB built-in sound chips..)
I refuse to use SDL because it sucks on Win32 (it is basically DirectX wrapper with very limited features and WinUAE really needs that advanced stuff for inputdevices, graphics and sound)
I also refuse to use any portable GUI toolkits because:- most of them look very non-Windows (Windows program that looks alien shouldn't exists) - extra libraries needed. WinUAE must not need any non-MS libraries to run. (it would be support nightmare, normal windows users don't know how to download extra stuff)
Those people that hate OS <put name here>: again your problem, not mine. Just go away. (Note that I know how to configure Linux and I have my own Linux http/fileserver at home, which is much better than MS's version)
Conclusion: I'll keep doing what I do like I have done previously. Someone else can merge WinUAE features to another port if interested. I am not. I will merge non-win32 specific stuff to WinUAE if someone sends them. (Haven't seen any for ages.. -> stopped caring years ago)
Technical stuff: I'll listen and you get my feedback. Talk about other stuff: I am not interested. (this is standard "coder" behaviour if you didn't know it :))
Hmm... I didn't know I could write that much non-code.... (and sorry if I appeared arrogant or something, I'll always go straight to the point)
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