[tssg-tech] Re: I am debugging the "Getting Started" for me as a new user.

Lucy,
I am doing it step by step & expect my results to differ from desired or 
expected.
I won't highlight the changes but can make a PDF (read-only) so to allow cut & 
paste to official DOC.

This will avoid my needing to buy latest Microsoft Office & Windows.
I am running XP Home with out MsOffice.

Fonts are already at issue when I open the DOC on the Yahoo group.
Also people may not want to reinstall or update to get added tools installed.

I wasn't sure how to address the non-developer members as spectators.
It may take a while to get the right blend for PHP & Android working.
They may end up separated.
I am also not a programmer so my use may be less demanding.
My background is Educational Services, Documentation & Publication (ESD&P).
I write documentation better than I code.
Lee

On Feb 24, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Lucy Hamnett wrote:

> Hi Lee,
> 
> This is great.
> I thought though that Brian is collecting the changes to the getting started 
> document. Did that change? or am I mis-remembering?
> 
> This document does not reside in the wiki or svn/trac. The master document 
> will need to be created with MS word. It's ok to do your edits in open source 
> software, but the final document will need to be in Word. In my experience, 
> the open software stuff is good, but often doesn't play well enough for 
> others to edit in Word, and different versions of open source software don't 
> play well with each other. 
> 
> I'd recommend (open for discussion) that either a) the gatherer of changes is 
> emailed the improvements and or b) a google document is maintained with 
> everyone having access to a single file. 
> 
> The final document will be reviewed by the group, and then go into a phase of 
> anybody new using it to try it and so minor adjustments will continue to 
> occur. The document itself will always reside in the Yahoo group so that 
> there are never multiple versions to maintain and can be accessed by people 
> who join the yahoo group but are not yet sure if and what they will be 
> committing to and so may not have access to the wiki and our source area.
> 
> Thanks so much for leading the way. It's great to see this going.
> 
> Lucy
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Play Cool Games <play@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> All Fellow TSSG TECH members,
> 
> For my privacy ,
> I have included at the end of the message my public "PLAY" identity as well 
> as private MOBILE.
> I mostly use the PLAY at COOLGAMES dot NET .
> The other is for occasional mobile use & at meetings.
> Please view it once & especially strip it off any further replies.
> 
> New topic:
> -------------
> I am proposing to verify the GETTING STARTED instructions with significant 
> changes that may affect others.
> 
> I am in hopes of doing the "Hello, World" test in Android Development Tool 
> (ADT) & Eclipse Indigo.
> 
> I will add the PHP components as I understand them & merge into the trac 
> system wiki & svn.
> I have a ticket #27 assigned for this already.
> 
> 
> I could use some guidelines from members & managers as to where to put any 
> improvements (?) in the SVN system.
> I have created PlayToyBox in the SVN tree already so I will begin there as I 
> learn the ropes.
> 
> The kinds of obstacles I foresee are based on newer versions & change of 
> ownership of numerous tools & applications being used.
> 
> Such as:
> 
> Getting Started says:
> 
> To download the JDK, go to this URL . . .
> 
> https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_Developer-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewProductDetail-Start?ProductRef=jdk-6u22-oth-JPR@CDS-CDS_Developer
> 
> 
> But web site immediately says:
> "The Sun Download Center was decommissioned on July 31, 2011.  Customers 
> looking for Sun downloads should visit one of the following Oracle websites:
> 
> Oracle Software Delivery Cloud (https://edelivery.oracle.com) for downloading 
> separately licensed software products
> Oracle Technology Network (http://otn.oracle.com) for downloading  software 
> for development
> My Oracle Support (https://support.oracle.com) for downloading hardware 
> related downloads and software product patches and updates"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Getting Started says:
> There are many versions of Eclipse.   TSSG uses Galileo version 3.5.2 .
> 
> 
> I've rewritten it to say:
> There are many versions of Eclipse.   TSSG uses Indigo version 3.7.1
> 
> I've saving the new version as Getting Started 2012
>  "TSSG Getting Started Guide
>    Android & PHP with Eclipse "
> 
> Since I am on OS X I use the "PAGES" application instead of "MsOffice WORD".
> The final copy will be in WORD .DOC  readable by Open Office 3 from Apache
> which also has changed owners since 2010.
> 
> 
> Home office:
> 978-448-2918
> Cool Games Network
> 290 Boston Road
> Groton Mass, 01450
> www.coolgames.net
> play@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> Mobile:
> 978-857-8564
> Lee T Davy
> linkedin.com/in/leetdavy
> coolgames@xxxxxx
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Lee T. Davy - Mini
Play Cool Games
play@xxxxxxxxxxxxx



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